Improve bevy icons for better "scalability"

[Weasy666]

Objective

Follow up to #3728.

@cart mentioned that increasing the gap size of the birds in the logo should be done for all icons, to make them scale better.

Right now, i have not committed anything to this branch/PR. I wanted to first discuss how i should handle the gap between the icon and text.

Logo + Text

Current

Logo with increased gap but same banner size (notice the decreased gap between logo and text)

Logo with increased gab and increased banner size (gap between logo and text is the same as in the current banner)

(in this example, the width increased from 416 px to 422 px)

Logo

Current

Increased gap

Let me know which Logo + Text you prefer and i will push that variant.

PS: The changed bevy_bird_simpleicons.svg should vanish after #3728 gets merged, i created a branch from that PR.

[bjorn3]

I feel like it becomes less clear that it represents three birds and more a single bird and two weird shapes.

[alice-i-cecile]

Mild preference for increased spacing on the banner.

Strong prefererence for the increased gap between the birds.

[alice-i-cecile]

@Weasy666 can you take this out of draft mode?

I'd like to merge this + #3728 together.

[Weasy666]

Sure, done!

Oh wait. Let me take a look on which variant is actually pushed...ah...currently none of the banners is pushed...i remember, i was still waiting on a decision on which one i should push.

[alice-i-cecile]

It's not a major difference either way; pick whichever one you like best :)

[Weasy666]

OK...i picked Logo with increased gab and increased banner size and modified all svgs and their respective pngs accordingly.

[IceSentry]

Might just be because I'm not on mobile, but the increased gap seems a bit too increased. Especially when looking at the one for simple icons using a single color. I agree with the general idea, but I'd like to see it with a somewhat smaller gap

[alice-i-cecile]

Yeah, consensus is emerging that the gap is a bit too big. @Weasy666, if you're up for it I think it would be cleaner to merge the changes from #3728 into this PR; I want to merge both at once anyways.

[Weasy666]

Well, this is all based on the icon from #3728...so...if you want me to change the gaps between the birds again, then we need to also change the simpleicons one again. The spacing between the bird and the text is the same as before.

btw, i noticed i missed to push the changed icon.svg and it looks like i have exported a wrongly sized bevy_logo_light.png.

[TimJentzsch]

Personally I would prefer two or three versions of the logo, based on the size. I don't think we can find a gap size that fits well for the super small and super big sizes. Especially considering the size difference of the badges to the website logo.

[Weasy666]

A few month ago @cart was not a fan of having different versions of the icons, dunno if he has changed his mind in the meantime. #3728 (comment)

[alice-i-cecile]

Adding the controversial label; I think this needs a final call from @cart.

[cart]

Yeah I think I'd prefer to not have a bunch of different versions of the logo bouncing around. Too easy for someone to pick the "wrong" one. I agree that the spacing feels "too big". Its worth considering a slightly smaller gap, but I'm a bit worried that any gap increase will make the logo feel "worse".

[Weasy666]

For me, it looks kinda like we are running in circles and i am slowly loosing my motivation here 😅
Sorry if this sounds kinda harsh, that is not my intention 🙂, but now we are more or less back to where we were at #3728

[cart]

I really appreciate the work you've done so far and if you stop here I certainly won't hold it against you. But I do think this is a conversation thats worth bringing to its conclusion. We have a number of concerns to balance:

1. Logo scalability at small sizes
2. Perceived logo quality at "normal" sizes
3. Logo consistency (ideally just one version)

Finding the right balance is a matter of aesthetic taste and given that I am the arbiter of that taste atm, it will either involve a lot of back and forth with me to tweak, or me taking ownership of the work. I'm happy to take ownership of the work, but I can't say this is my highest priority atm.

[Weasy666]

Thank you! ❤ I have no problem with the conversation per se, it's quite the opposite.
I was just a bit frustrated, because i was under the impression that we already had checked 1. and 2. off in #3728.
So, if we don't have those points checked off, then we also need to touch #3728 again after we have come to a conclusion here, right?
Can you point me in a direction regarding the too big gap? How big should it be, compared to the original and current gap?

[cart]

Cool cool! From my perspective, in #3728 I only expressed that (a) a single logo version has my preference and (b) it is worth exploring increasing the gap in that unified version. Then this pr gave that a whack and we've largely agreed that the gap is too big.

Can you point me in a direction regarding the too big gap? How big should it be, compared to the original and current gap?

Lets try splitting the difference (half way between the original and current gap) and rendering that at a variety of sizes.

[bas-ie]

Closed (backlog cleanup), tracked in #15584.