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When missing EPAR table, just emit INFO alert #818

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khaledhosny opened this issue Jul 7, 2016 · 9 comments
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When missing EPAR table, just emit INFO alert #818

khaledhosny opened this issue Jul 7, 2016 · 9 comments
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No idea what is EPAR table is (not a standard table AFAICT) and why my fonts should have it.

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davelab6 commented Jul 7, 2016

See https://davelab6.github.io/epar/

Perhaps @dberlow can make the case.

It is/was a way of expressing common licensing permissions and restrictions in metadata; while almost nothing supported it, I wonder that adding it to everything in GF could help make it more popular.

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I see, but even fonttools does not support it. I think an ERROR is just too strong.

@davelab6 davelab6 changed the title ERROR Font is missing EPAR table. When missing EPAR table, just emit INFO alert Jul 7, 2016
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davelab6 commented Jul 7, 2016

I agree. I updated this issue to be actionable

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dberlow commented Jul 7, 2016

Dave and Khaled,

I agree it is rather strong of the Fontbakery to require epar.

To correct Dave's memory, Epar is a way of expressing electronic permissions and recommendations. There are no "restrictions" in epar.

For Google, permissions would be a dull place, compared to commercial, fonts, but

For Google, recommendations would be a hoppin' place, with all kinds of per style data that could be useful in a catalog, or to a composition app, as well as being presented to the user. Much finer values for a style's weight and width, than are in OS/2, ar in epar, so e.g. This has allowed us to define widths and weights relatively with great precision to particular contrasts beyond regular and bold, and between the widths of various sizes. http://store.typenetwork.com/foundry/fontbureau/fonts/agency-fb?layout=overview
Is an example of this in action, where none of the TN "overview" pages have a single manual style of size specification, running instead on an algorithm based on accurate 1/1000ths of an em values for weight and width, along with optical size master data.

(If you don't own OT, like us, and you need to move along, like us, this stuff is becoming handier in one place.)

Cheers,

db

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davelab6 commented Jul 7, 2016

There are no "restrictions" in epar.

Thanks for correcting me on this :) Its how I remember hearing about it for the first time, I guess...

For instance, if the EEULAA says "no
modification", then a message might appear that says "The license
for this font does not allow user modification. Please contact the
vendor to upgrade your license." and the font would not be opened.

But I agree that Recommendations are great; perhaps we can distinguish between EPAR and EEULAA :)

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dberlow commented Jul 7, 2016

Sadly, because of the DRM knee jerk society, and since the initial failure to describe epar as Anything else... It has been better to selfishly benefit from it on our own, then to continually explain its benefits to others, all far more needy than us.

Good luck!

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There are no "restrictions" in epar.

Thanks for correcting me on this :) Its how I remember hearing about it for the first time, I guess...

For instance, if the EEULAA says "no
modification", then a message might appear that says "The license
for this font does not allow user modification. Please contact the
vendor to upgrade your license." and the font would not be opened.

https://sourceforge.net/p/fontforge/mailman/message/6164525/
But I agree that Recommendations are great; perhaps we can distinguish between EPAR and EEULAA :)


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I did change the test to emit an INFO result for fonts that lack an EPAR table. It was very weird to emit PASS in both cases. An INFO makes much more sense here.

See: 9a09133

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