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[REVIEW]: Carnival: JVM Property graph data unification toolkit #5117
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I've partially finished my review. I created issues in the Carnival source code repository, linking to this issue. I marked the items I've completed in my review as done, in my checklist ☝️ All the pending items are being mentioned in the issues I created. @hjwilli feel free to ping me on any of those issues to discuss or suggest some fixes 👍 As we progress with those issues, I'll update my checklist and hopefully my review should be completed as soon as the issues are resolved. Thanks! |
Thanks @kinow, the team has started working on the issues you've raised and you should see some updates soon! |
The code has 13 commits by Hayden Freedman, who is not on the author list. On the other hand the author list includes Louis Lee, who does not seem to be a contributor to the codebase. Finally Christian Stoeckert only has a single commit where one word in the readme seems to have changed. Can you explain the choice of authors? |
@hjwilli could you comment on the concern raised by @KonradHoeffner at #5117 (comment)? |
Hello @hjwilli - can you give us a progress update in this thread? Thanks very much - |
Hi @majensen, thank you for your patience. My team is still in the process of making updates to the paper and codebase based on feedback and hopes to address most of the issues in the next few weeks. For the author list, Christian Stoeckert is an ontology expert who has been key collaborator in the development of Carnival for the lifetime of the project and has directly contributed to the paper and should be included as an author. Louis Lee is a newer member of the team who has participated software design process for carnival and the paper and has make significant contributions to the demo application for this submission and should be included as an author. Hayden is no longer an active member of the group but has make significant contributions to the codebase and we are reaching out to them for inclusion. |
@hjwilli: Yes, please definitely do include Hayden then, as required by the ethics guidelines:
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@hjwilli - how are your responses coming along? |
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Hi @hjwilli, how are your revisions coming along? |
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@hjwilli maybe you can give an overview of your progress so far on carnival-data/carnival#123. We may be able to negotiate a path forward; I think we all would love to set this paper free. |
Thank you, I am working on a partial response and updates related to this that will be pushed next week, and would appreciate feedback at that point! |
Hi @majensen, as an update, I've made extensive updates this week for carnival-data/carnival#123, a few small things left. |
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Hi @hjwilli, please let us know how things are progressing. I'm happy to discuss offline at maj -dot- fortinbras -at- gmail -dot- com. Thanks! |
Hi @hjwilli - pinging you again on progress. Thank you! |
Hi @majensen, I've made changes and updates to respond to carnival-data/carnival#123. |
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Thanks for this work @hjwilli. My opinion is that the additional documentation and example provided and described in the response to carnival-data/carnival#123 is very detailed and satisfies me. @KonradHoeffner, do you agree? (JOSS papers themselves are meant to be quite short, supplemented in documentation as in this instance.) |
@majensen: Of the two leftover major issues, carnival-data/carnival#123 has been sufficiently addressed but carnival-data/carnival#113 is still open and there seem to remain undocumented items in the API. |
Thanks @KonradHoeffner - I've had a look at the documentation, my feeling is that major classes and "user facing" methods have a reasonable amount of explanation. The general documentation has also been expanded significantly. Just from my perspective, I think documentation also evolves and interaction with users will expose those components that are underdocumented. I'm inclined to recommend moving forward as-is, but it is up to you. If there are specific elements that you feel need docs, can you highlight these in the issue? |
@majensen: My general view is that all public items are "user facing" but I don't have any specific elements in mind, so if you want to move forward as-is I won't object. |
@KonradHoeffner thanks for your comment. I do agree, and maybe the right direction would be to expose less. But I would like to move forward, since we are approaching 2 years in review, and I believe the functionality is established and the general documentation has been significantly improved. @hjwilli - I will review the paper itself and may have some minor updates to apply. |
@hjwilli - just to note, in the online documentation there are some instances of "providence" which I believe should be "provenance" |
The only minor proof comment I have on the paper is, can we make the 'Features' paragraph at l.50 into a sentence; keep the bullets but add "The main features of Carnival are:" before the list, and punctuate the bulleted sentences with comma, comma, period. |
@majensen Thank you very much for all your feedback. I've updated the "providence" typos that I was able to find, and made the suggested changes to the "features" section of the paper. I will keep the notes on the API documentation in mind as the project evolves. Please let me know if there are other things I need to address to move the JOSS process forward! |
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Thanks a lot @hjwilli - for some reason, the bullets didn't render right in lines 49-53, maybe check that. [I would also put a comma between "model" and "particularly" at line 43.] |
Submitting author: @hjwilli (Heather Williams)
Repository: https://github.com/carnival-data/carnival
Branch with paper.md (empty if default branch): joss2
Version: V2.1.5
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Reviewers: @kinow, @KonradHoeffner
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