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[REVIEW]: TriP: A Python package for the kinematic modeling of serial-parallel hybrid robots #3967

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Submitting author: @liquidcronos (Jan Baumgärtner)
Repository: https://github.com/TriPed-Robot/TriP
Branch with paper.md (empty if default branch): paper
Version: v1.0.3
Editor: @danielskatz
Reviewers: @SeungBack, @bmagyar
Archive: 10.5281/zenodo.6360087

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whedon commented Dec 1, 2021

PDF failed to compile for issue #3967 with the following error:

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@danielskatz danielskatz changed the title [REVIEW]: TriP: A Python package for the kinematic modeling of seriell-parallel hybrid robots [REVIEW]: TriP: A Python package for the kinematic modeling of serial-parallel hybrid robots Dec 1, 2021
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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):

OK DOIs

- 10.1016/j.mechatronics.2020.102367 is OK
- 10.1007/s12532-018-0139-4 is OK
- 10.1109/TMECH.2006.871087 is OK
- 10.1016/j.mechmachtheory.2008.03.002 is OK
- 10.1016/j.rcim.2012.09.016 is OK
- 10.1109/MRA.2011.2181749 is OK

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👋 @SeungBack and @bmagyar - Thanks for agreeing to review this submission.
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👋 @bmagyar, please update us on how your review is going (this is an automated reminder).

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👋 @SeungBack, please update us on how your review is going (this is an automated reminder).

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HI @bmagyar and @SeungBack - I've been on vacation, and continue to be for another week, but also want to check on the status of this review. I'll check again on the 10th when I'm back at work.

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I reviewed the paper and documentation, and here are the comments. I am reviewing the codes and will add detailed comments about the codes soon.

This paper introduces an easy-to-use Python package for computing the forward and inverse kinematics of robots. The author claims that previous libraries lack support for hybrid serial-parallel systems, and TirP can be used to model both parallel and serial mechanisms. Solving Inverse and forward kinematics is an essential component for robotics, and I think this library can be useful for those who want to easily model the kinematics of complex robots.

Major issues

  • There are other libraries that support computing the F.K and I.K of robots, such as ikpy and Klampt, but the paper compares TriP with Openrave, MoveIt, and Matlab. It would be better to describe the strength of this library by comparing it to other libraries in terms of functionality and speed.
  • For the easy modeling of chain models, support of URDF import/export and 2D/3D visualization is necessary. Is there a plan to support this? 

Minor issues

  • I think the summary section does not summarize the paper, rather, it introduces the overall background.
  • In the tutorial, some code references are broken and refer to the wrong lines of code
  • Examples do not include the codes for importing packages. Please add this information (e.g. import trip_kinematics, from math import radians)
  • Documentation includes only TriPed robots, and I think adding an example for popular serial mechanisms (e.g., Panda, UR5) would be helpful.
  • The names of the pip package name (trip-kinematics) and paper title (TriP) do not match, and thus please consider adding an installation section on readthedocs.
  • The colors of Figures 1 and 3 in the paper are confusing, and it would be better to use contrastive colors.
  • typos in Figure 2. (e.g., ,,Spherical Joint", [,tz'])

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Hi @SeungBack Thanks for your valuable feedback!
I am not sure If I should immediately respond or wait for the second reviewer, So I hope that it is alright to address the Issues:

There are other libraries that support computing the F.K and I.K of robots, such as ikpy and Klampt, but the paper compares TriP with Openrave, MoveIt, and Matlab. It would be better to describe the strength of this library by comparing it to other libraries in terms of functionality and speed.

You are correct we do not mention other python kinematic libraries.
This was an oversight, ultimately the libraries you mentioned suffer from the same shortcomings as the other ones namely lacking support for serial mechanisms or hybrid serial parallel mechanisms.
I will add them shortly.

For the easy modeling of chain models, support of URDF import/export and 2D/3D visualization is necessary. Is there a plan to support this?

We completely agree that visualization is very important in practice.
For this reason we are working on adding visualizations for a future release of the library.

While URDF is a standard format for robot descriptions, it is unfortunately rather basic and lacks support for the hybrid mechanisms TriP aims to model.
Since it is still sufficient to describe the virtual open chain of a mechanism we are currently working on URDF support which we will hopefully finish next month.

I think the summary section does not summarize the paper, rather, it introduces the overall background.

You are right. To be honest I was a bit confused by the required content of this section since many other papers seem to include the background in order to describe the purpose of the software for a 'diverse, non-specialist audience'.
Would you rather I shorten the overview or write more about TriP itself?

In the tutorial, some code references are broken and refer to the wrong lines of code

Examples do not include the codes for importing packages. Please add this information (e.g. import trip_kinematics, from math import radians)

Thanks for letting me know, should be fixed now :)

Documentation includes only TriPed robots, and I think adding an example for popular serial mechanisms (e.g., Panda, UR5) would be helpful.

Ideally we want more examples of hybrid serial parallel robots to better showcase TriPs performance as you can see here.
Popular examples of such hybrid systems are the Kuka KR 40 PA or the fanuc-m410ic.
The main reason we have not included these systems so far is that we want to independently verify that we have correctly implemented the models.
Since we are the only library supporting hybrid mechanisms calculating reference values is very difficult.
For this reason we have currently included the excavator robots as toy examples while we slowly add more examples.
If you want we can prioritize the development of these robot models to get them out sooner.

The names of the pip package name (trip-kinematics) and paper title (TriP) do not match, and thus please consider adding an installation section on readthedocs.

Good point, we will add a getting started section including the installation instructions of the README.md.

The colors of Figures 1 and 3 in the paper are confusing, and it would be better to use contrastive colors.

Are you referring only to the two green colors, or the blue and green color as well?
I will try to change them to be more contrastive.

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@liquidcronos - it's fine (and even good) for you to respond as issues come up - this will make it easier for the second reviewer. thanks!

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@SeungBack I have included IKPy and Klam't in my discussion.
Let me know if this is sufficient or if you want a more detailed comparison

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Attempting PDF compilation from custom branch paper. Reticulating splines etc...

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Hi @liquidcronos,

I have checked the updated version of the manuscripts, and I am satisfied with the response and the revised manuscript. It is good to hear that TriP will be updated to support URDF and visualization. Here are the additional comments for your response:

  1. Would you rather I shorten the overview or write more about TriP itself?

I recommend adding more about TriP itself (e.g., features, structures, and the strength of TriP).

  1. Are you referring only to the two green colors, or the blue and green colors as well?

The colors of green and blue links are hard to distinguish for me. 

  1. Examples do not include the codes for importing packages. Please add this information (e.g. import trip_kinematics, from math import radians)

Thanks for letting me know, should be fixed now :)

Please let me know after updating the codes so that I can run and review them.

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Hey @SeungBack
I have amended the paper with more references to TriPs features.
As promised I have also added a getting started section that explains how the library is installed.
The code examples should now also be self-contained and include all necessary imports.

Are there any other changes you would like to see apart from the figure colors (which I should be able to change until Friday)?

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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):

OK DOIs

- 10.1016/j.mechatronics.2020.102367 is OK
- 10.1007/s12532-018-0139-4 is OK
- 10.1109/TMECH.2006.871087 is OK
- 10.1016/j.mechmachtheory.2008.03.002 is OK
- 10.1016/j.rcim.2012.09.016 is OK
- 10.1109/MRA.2011.2181749 is OK

MISSING DOIs

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INVALID DOIs

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👉📄 Download article proof 📄 View article proof on GitHub 📄 👈

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👋 @liquidcronos - I've suggested a bunch of changes in TriPed-Robot/trip_kinematics#75 If these are ok, please merge them. If not, we can discuss. Then we can move to final acceptance and publication.

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Hey @danielskatz the changes are all fine, i have thus accepted the pull request

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At this point could you:

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  • Archive the reviewed software in Zenodo or a similar service (e.g., figshare, an institutional repository)
  • Check the archival deposit (e.g., in Zenodo) has the correct metadata. This includes the title (should match the paper title) and author list (make sure the list is correct and people who only made a small fix are not on it). You may also add the authors' ORCID.
  • Please list the DOI of the archived version here.

I can then move forward with accepting the submission.

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liquidcronos commented Mar 15, 2022

  • I have created a release with the tag v1.0.3 for the Journal Submission.
  • I have archived it on Zenode
  • I have checked the Metadata.
  • The resulting DOI is: 10.5281/zenodo.6360087

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@liquidcronos - can you please change the metadata of the zenodo archive to have "TriP: A Python package for the kinematic modeling of serial-parallel hybrid robots" as the title? (See "How can I edit the metadata of a published record?" on https://help.zenodo.org)

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@editorialbot set v1.0.3 as version

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@editorialbot set 10.5281/zenodo.6360087 as archive

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Done! version is now v1.0.3

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Done! Archive is now 10.5281/zenodo.6360087

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@danielskatz Should be updated know!
By the way thanks for making me aware of the edit button, Up until know I was changing the .zenodo.json file by hand and drafting a new release each time...

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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):

OK DOIs

- 10.1016/j.mechatronics.2020.102367 is OK
- 10.1007/s12532-018-0139-4 is OK
- 10.1109/TMECH.2006.871087 is OK
- 10.1016/j.mechmachtheory.2008.03.002 is OK
- 10.1016/j.rcim.2012.09.016 is OK
- 10.1109/MRA.2011.2181749 is OK

MISSING DOIs

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INVALID DOIs

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👋 @openjournals/joss-eics, this paper is ready to be accepted and published.

Check final proof 👉 openjournals/joss-papers#3064

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Sorry @liquidcronos - GitHub actions, which is how @editorialbot runs, are currently degraded, so this acceptance may take a while. Once this runs, I will verify the published PDF and DOI, then send a message closing this submission.

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Congratulations to @liquidcronos (Jan Baumgärtner) and co-author!!

And thanks to @SeungBack and @bmagyar for reviewing!
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Hey Guys, sorry for the late response, I was on vacation.
I just wanted to quickly thank everyone involved with this paper, although the process took longer than expected I really enjoyed how open and transparent this process was.
Special thanks also to you @danielskatz for being the editor even though you are normally not an editor in the robotics domain.

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