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Update Development page to include packages selected in LibreRouter repository #103
comparing this file with what gets compiled following the instructions on the Development page, the following things seems to be missing from the development page or from the lime-packages packages dependencies:
CONFIG_PACKAGE_watchping=y
we don't use this anymore, no?
CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-iptunnel6=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-ip6-tunnel=y
these looks related to BMX6 and BMX7, do we need them?
CONFIG_PACKAGE_fft-eval=y
we have to remember to add this to the page once OpenWrt 19.07 will be released
CONFIG_PACKAGE_deferable-reboot=y
should we consider to include this in the next release? (maybe increasing the time between reboot and reboot to a week)
CONFIG_PACKAGE_batctl=y
beware that with OpenWrt 19.07 the batctl package will split in batctl-tiny, batctl-default and batctl-full
CONFIG_BUSYBOX_CONFIG_DEVMEM=y CONFIG_KMOD_BATMAN_ADV_DEBUGFS=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_rpcd-mod-rrdns=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-usb-ohci=y
What about these? Do we need them?
comparing this file with what gets compiled following the instructions on the Development page, the following things seems to be missing from the development page or from the lime-packages packages dependencies:
CONFIG_PACKAGE_watchping=y
we don't use this anymore, no?
CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-iptunnel6=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-ip6-tunnel=y
these looks related to BMX6 and BMX7, do we need them?
I don't know.
CONFIG_PACKAGE_fft-eval=y
we have to remember to add this to the page once OpenWrt 19.07 will be released
CONFIG_PACKAGE_deferable-reboot=y
should we consider to include this in the next release? (maybe increasing the time between reboot and reboot to a week)
I think it should be enabled by default.
CONFIG_PACKAGE_batctl=y
beware that with OpenWrt 19.07 the batctl package will split in batctl-tiny, batctl-default and batctl-full
Ok, so basically there is nothing to be taken from the LibreRouterOS packages list, correct?
The only exception being deferable-reboot.
And we'll have to explicitly (see libremesh/lime-packages@b8980c3) specify batctl-default in the list and also fft-eval as soon as the compilation instructions will refer to OpenWrt 19.07.
Let's discuss here which packages to support and include for the 2020.2 release.
As a general principle for a headache-free release, I would avoid anything that was not included in the development page until now and that is not being used in LibreRouterOS (but if there are requests, let's test them!).
Looking at the LibreRouterOS list linked above, these are the packages that they include and that we are not currently recommending:
deferable-reboot that reboots each router every 27 hours. I really hope we don't need that. I would be in favor of including it if by default it were deactivated or rebooting the system every n weeks or months (and not running in cron every minute).
eupgrade that looks at an IP for newer versions of the firmware and then I don't know how it works. For including it we need at least to know where its documentation is, and where is the server's documentation also.
In our CN we haven't tried these yet but we will (these should basically add some new parameters in prometheus format, useful for debugging and visualization of metrics).
I think they could be added as default for 2020.2, but probably not all devices can have them due to limited flash/ram space. Not only 4/32 devices but also with others i.e. ath79_generic_tplink_cpe510-v3 if I add those packages the resulting image is too big.
Maybe it could be clearer if the Development page mentions the different set of recommended packages with a general section (as it already is with all the recommended packages), but also with subsections, or another page, specific for 4MB flash, 8MB flash, with the packages to deselect.
For example like Openwrt does in this page:
Saving firmware space and RAM https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/additional-software/saving_space
Currently on the site the packages listed as safely deselectable are:
check-date-http (Keep local date under NTP too far away skew)
lime-docs (LibreMesh full documentation)
lime-hwd-ground-routing (Manage 802.1q VLANs for ground routing)
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spiccinini commentedon Dec 14, 2019
Not sure but it is very handy.
No, we are not including tinc by default
I don't know.
I think it should be enabled by default.
I think this is not used but I am not sure as luci.network is somewhat used
unneded (should be selected by selecting the correct board)
ilario commentedon Jan 4, 2020
Ok, so basically there is nothing to be taken from the LibreRouterOS packages list, correct?
The only exception being deferable-reboot.
And we'll have to explicitly (see libremesh/lime-packages@b8980c3) specify batctl-default in the list and also fft-eval as soon as the compilation instructions will refer to OpenWrt 19.07.
ilario commentedon Jul 12, 2022
3 years have passed and there is again some divergence between the standard packages in LibreRouterOS and the recommended ones on the LibreMesh website.
We should check whether some of the LibreRouterOS project choices make sense also here:
https://gitlab.com/librerouter/librerouteros/-/blob/librerouter-1.5/configs/default_config
ilario commentedon Nov 14, 2022
Some info should be possible to extract from the comments in the commits:
https://gitlab.com/librerouter/librerouteros/-/blame/librerouter-1.5/configs/default_config
ilario commentedon Mar 8, 2023
Let's discuss here which packages to support and include for the 2020.2 release.
As a general principle for a headache-free release, I would avoid anything that was not included in the development page until now and that is not being used in LibreRouterOS (but if there are requests, let's test them!).
Looking at the LibreRouterOS list linked above, these are the packages that they include and that we are not currently recommending:
ilario commentedon Mar 18, 2023
I missed the safe-reboot package:
a-gave commentedon Mar 20, 2023
Looking at these:
In our CN we haven't tried these yet but we will (these should basically add some new parameters in prometheus format, useful for debugging and visualization of metrics).
I think they could be added as default for 2020.2, but probably not all devices can have them due to limited flash/ram space. Not only 4/32 devices but also with others i.e. ath79_generic_tplink_cpe510-v3 if I add those packages the resulting image is too big.
Maybe it could be clearer if the
Development pagementions the different set of recommended packages with a general section (as it already is with all the recommended packages), but also with subsections, or another page, specific for 4MB flash, 8MB flash, with the packages to deselect.For example like Openwrt does in this page:
Saving firmware space and RAM
https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/additional-software/saving_space
Currently on the site the packages listed as safely deselectable are:
ilario commentedon Mar 20, 2023
Thanks for the link!
I included it in the "development" page: 8941fbc
Let us know which Prometheus packages you would suggest, please! Which ones are you using now?