Why are there no new releases? #29753
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If you need the commits that have come since the last release it helps to use the Git version with PIP, but otherwise it really doesn't ATM. |
Is there a way to get the binary versions with the latest commits? Or do I need to build it myself? |
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Need to build it yourself. You can cheat by using the "EXE" file that's made when installed through PIP, which is actually more like a self-extracting archive with a Python script inside that boots the actual Python source code installed alongside the "EXE". |
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I've switched to yt-dlp |
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not a troll, but thank you for that link. Interesting to see how much time I've wasted on github lol @89z |
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To echo the OP's question, is youtube-dl still alive? Two months is a long time between updates. |
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The question that was posed here is very valid and no need to get defensive. I've been using youtube-dl for number of years, and this is the longest it has gone without an update, other than that time they were forced to shut down the repo due to RIAA lawsuit. I did take your advise 89z and switched to a different repo, yt-dlp, thanks for the suggestion! |
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Steven Penny wrote:
Given the large number of pending issues and that 2+ months is a long time for this project since the last update of any sort other than when it was taken down for legal reasons, I thought the OP's question, still not answered, was valid. There are plenty of users on other forums wondering what's happened to yt-dl viz updates. I'd already switched to another fork before the last update when yt-dl fell over with several streaming sites I frequent - they still don't work with yt-dl and issues were logged months ago .. I didn't get upset, I just moved to another fork. For the person who is making the same criticising post quoted above & deleting it straight afterwards, this is not a whine about "why hasn't there been an update?" but rather a concerned "are there problems, legal or otherwise, behind the lengthy time since the last update?" It may take a long time (or never) to fix a specific issue, but we have gone over 2 months without a fix to any issue with yt-dl when previously updates came every few weeks. Users deserve to know whether a project is still alive or not. I've used other open source software where the devs have walked away yet the forum viz discussion & issues continued for years afterwards. |
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Definitely agree with the sentiments expressed above. It does seem a bit odd that none of the maintainers (e.g. @dstftw, @remitamine) have been active on GitHub for the past couple months. Yes, burnout is a very real issue, but I have to wonder why a successor was not named. Based on the number of outstanding PRs, there seem to be plenty of eligible volunteers |
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I've known of more than a few downloaders & front ends that weathered attacks from 'authorities' but suddenly went silent before completely vanishing after the said authorities switched from attacking the project to pursuing the developers. Yt-dl is a sizeable project with quite a few devs ... it seems odd that the whole project should suddenly freeze & the maintainers vanish .. it raises lots of red flags that there may have been some sort of legal action. The longer the uncertainty goes on, the more ominous it gets. |
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Could it be because of "YouTube™" in the project's name? |
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It doesn't matter what the project is named cuz the code is publicly Open Source ! Search Engines see it and can show the files when using the word. |
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You have never met lawyers, have you? |
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Not in person, but followed a couple, and a name as part of a software hardly matters. |
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youtube-dl may have originally started off many years ago as a youtube downloader, but it has long since branched out to work with almost any non-DRM'd streaming service. The "youtube" is merely a legacy of it's origins. As for lawyers .. I've met some, some are even quite nice people. yt-dl has weathered legal attacks in the past and every time that's happened the news of the legal attack is not only mentioned on the yt-dl pages but it is reported in the technology media around the world. There's been no such reporting this time. One reason why yt-dl has weathered previous legal attacks is that whilst it can be used for "breach of rights" downloads, it also has a lot of legitimate users. Educational institutions for instance, can obtain a licence to download streaming media for research and/or educational purposes. |
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We are not entitled to the work of unpaid volunteers. That being said, defensive or even flamey responses like the quotes above are not the way to go either. Putting a section on the top of the README, say named "Current status", that's being updated once every 1-2 weeks, is going to go a long way assuaging people's fears. RIAA is a scary entity and it has some pretty scary people behind it as well. I think it's fair to expect that projects like |
I fully agree. It's not just yt-dl though - the two co-ordinators for the yt-dl project have been missing in action from all of their github projects for 2 months now. And in their absence, yt-dl is in limbo. Unless the project co-ordinators are residents of the USA, the RIAA has much less power to threaten them than it would against github itself since Github is based in the USA and now owned by microsoft, so an easy target for the RIAA. Yet there is no sign, either on github (yt-dl has not been removed) or in the tech media of an attack on yt-dl. If the RIAA or some other entity had embarked on legal action against the yt-dl co-ordinators, part of that action would be a requirement to take down yt-dl. Since that has not happened, it strongly suggests their silence is due to other reasons & not legal attacks. Burnout & health reasons come to mind. :( |
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Amen to that, exactly my thinking. COVID-19 is still in circulation, so that could end in multiple ways. |
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This is extremely concerning. I hope everything is all right. I did not forget about Grooveshark yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Greenberg#Death_and_legacy |
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The PRs have been piling up for years now; it isn't as though this is a recent development. |
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I switched to Thanks for the recommendation! I'm very pleased with the switch. |
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Re the reference to Grooveshark, when that takedown happened the service was no longer available and the takedown was widely reported in the media pretty quickly .. as with last year's takedown of yt-dl. There's been nothing this time, which suggests the issue is personal. I wasn't going to mention covid, but since someone else did, that was exactly what I was thinking. I lost a close friend to it a few months ago. :( yt-dlp works a treat .. but be aware that quite a few of the command line options are different, including default options. Of course, most of the time the default settings for both are fine. |
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NSA? |
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Pfft, I highly doubt it. Like it was a national security problem. |
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If it was any government or legal agency then the yt-dl project would have been taken down as well., After all, their goal would be to eradicate yd-dl, so going after devs would only be a means to that end. No, I'm more inclined towards health problems or burnout. Or they all decided to take a holiday at the same time. |
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Two people at the same time, with no warning? Well, we'll see. |
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We are in the middle of a pandemic, so more likely now than 2 years ago. :( As for burnout, that can affect the whole team at the same time. |
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Burnout or not, they could have at least issued a statement. |
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Assuming that this is/was NOT the main thing in authors' lives.. burnout, or being too busy, or being engaged in an issue (like sickness), it's fairly possible to not comment at all, anywhere on the project. But all possible cases are concerning :( Thanks for pointing out yt-dlp, looks like that is already a replacement. |
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Looks like there were only a handful of commits in July and August of 2020. Maybe they are taking a break during these months? |
Exactly what's been said multiple times here. |
I didn't see anyone point out the break during the same months last year. |
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This issues can be closed IMHO, #30568. |
🙄🤦♂️ Due to the global supply-chain problems, we're awaiting shipment of necessities for the code-monkeys, in order that they consent to producing code. This being a 3-4 (out of 5) banana problem, after all. 😁 Of course, ample complaining by many users always greases the wheels. You could always ask the code fairy, or Santa, instead. That would be quicker than installing a totalitarian government to whip keyboard-bashers into submission. I hear that code-monkeys prefer free-range bananas, though. |
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It's another 7 months hiatus after the last update in Dec' 21. The oft-recommended yt-dlp failed to compile on my system and I'm forced to use youtube-dl on every site but YouTube. So the new update would be welcome, especially if it manages to hammer out the throttling. |
If FYI, there was just released an update. 🙂 Also, when you'd compile |
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I installed Python 3. Building it still fails as 10.15SDK is expected (a configuration failure), while I'm on macOS 10.14.
Are you saying if I re-download the youtube-dl source and compile I could use it on YT as well? Or is it a static binary that you suggest?
… On 22 Jun 2022, at 07:49, nicolaasjan ***@***.***> wrote:
It's another 7 months hiatus after the last update in Dec' 21. The oft-recommended yt-dlp failed to compile on my system and I'm forced to use youtube-dl on every site but YouTube. So the new update would be welcome, especially if it manages to hammer out the throttling.
If yt-dlp failed to compile on your macOS, open an issue at their repo.
If it's because your system Python version is still at 2.7, you can download the macOS standalone build.
(see this issue <yt-dlp/yt-dlp#1075>)
FYI, there was just released an update <https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/tag/2022.06.22.1>. 🙂
Also, when you'd compile youtube-dl now, you'll notice that the YouTube throttling issue is already fixed in the current master.
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I must admit that I know nothing about compiling on macOS, so I can't give you any advice regarding that. 😀️
That's what I do and it works on YouTube.
Then put the resulting static binary in But doesn't the macOS standalone build of |
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Why compile, though ? |
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There are at least 17 subscribers to this issue and your troubleshooting seems off-topic. Can you please create a new issue and resolve it there? It doesn't seem necessary to flood everyone's inbox with your discussion. |
Is youtube-dl dead again? Are there no other maintainers that can approve the PRs?
Is there some legal issue going on in the background which has forced the development to be stopped? You guys can't just disappear on us like how you did before RIAA took down youtube-dl. At least add new maintainers that can take over the job while you guys are away. A lot of projects and software depend on youtube-dl.
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