Upcoming WHATNOT meeting on 1/11/2024

[past]

What is the issue with the HTML Standard?

Today we held our biweekly triage call (#9966) and I will post the meeting notes there in a bit. The next one is scheduled for January 11, 9am PST. Note that this is 2 weeks later in an America+Europe friendly time.

People interested in attending the next call please respond here or reach out privately to me or the spec editors. We will be tagging issues for the next call again using the agenda+ label in all WHATWG repos and we would like to invite anyone that can contribute to said issues to join us.

[zcbenz]

Is it possible to add #10039 to the agenda? I can't attend the meeting due to the timezone unfortunately, but I can try to find some VS Code developers who are awake in the timezone to explain it to you if needed.

[annevk]

Added. We should be able to make that work time-wise I think.

[past]

Thank you all for attending today! Here are the notes from this meeting (the next one is at #10052):

Agenda

Attendees: Joey Arhar, Panos Astithas, David Baron, Tantek Celik, Keith Cirkel, Emilio Cobos Álvarez, Robert Flack, Mason Freed, Sanket Joshi, Olli Pettay, Kagami Rosylight, Anne van Kesteren, Daniel Veditz

1. Review past action items
   1. Mason and Marcos will review [forms] Make <input type=button> magic clip not magic.
      1. Mason reviewed.
      2. Anne will add WebKit feedback (or find someone to do so) on a followup.
   2. Olli will comment on [View Transitions] Extend render-blocking to support Document. Noam will create a spec PR for this.
      1. Done and done. Olli will discuss performance with Henri.
   3. Sanket will write up a spec PR for Autocomplete on 'contenteditable' Elements.
      1. Done.
   4. Joey will talk to other Chrome engineers to figure out the reasons behind Blink's behavior around <button> and user selection. Marcos will ask around for WebKit's appetite for a similar change.
      1. Joey commented. Anne will follow up with the WebKit engineers.
2. Carryovers from last time
   1. Simon to look more into nested interactive content spec behavior, with synthetic click events.
      1. Carryover.
   2. [Anne] Add &nnbsp; entity for U+202F
      1. Carryover till February 22.
3. New topics
   1. [Joey] The <selectlist> element (Stage 1 proposal)
      1. The 3 present Steering Group members agreed that the SG will discuss this first and post an official process document for us to follow, before we make a decision here. No objections from any browser to the importance of the proposal, the meeting consensus is that this is a problem worth solving.
   2. [Keith] Opening a dialog as modal, nested inside a popover, causes the whole page to go inert with limited ways for the user to address it
      1. Mason will prototype the agreed solution.
   3. [Emilio] User interacted flag gets set when change events are set, but tests disagree
      1. Emilio will propose a new spec PR and test.
   4. [Anne] A way to disable animation of cancelled drag for editor apps like VS Code
      1. Sanket will follow up internally to find someone to present this at a future meeting.
   5. [Sanket] New attribute to control UA-provided writing assistance
      1. The consensus is that regarding inheritance, this should behave the same as spellcheck. The spellcheck spec needs also to be updated to behave interoperably. Anne noted a regression when <input type=search> was introduced. Sanket will update the PR to behave the same as spellcheck.

Action Items

1. @annevk will add WebKit feedback (or find someone to do so) on Don't clip range/checkbox/radio overflow to border box.
2. @annevk will follow up on <button> and user selection with the WebKit engineers.
3. @mfreed7 will prototype the agreed solution for Opening a dialog as modal, nested inside a popover, causes the whole page to go inert with limited ways for the user to address it.
4. @emilio will propose a new spec PR and test for User interacted flag gets set when change events are set, but tests disagree.
5. @sanketj will follow up internally to find someone to present A way to disable animation of cancelled drag for editor apps like VS Code at a future meeting.
6. @sanketj will update the New attribute to control UA-provided writing assistance PR to behave the same as spellcheck.