ROADMAP.md update for stages and forward view #2913

qnetter · 2022-01-22T07:09:32Z

What this PR does / why we need it

This PR updates the published roadmap to include development of features and a more extended forward view.

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NONE

Which issue(s) this PR fixes

Fixes: #

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Validation by core engineering and other stakeholders

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kcoriordan

Very minor edits - plus the table is broken - let me know if you want me to fix it up

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joshrosso

blocking for markdown lint & url lint issues.

@qnetter let us know if we can help with running those lint checks locally.

Will re-review once resolved.

qnetter · 2022-01-24T17:59:09Z

I'll do it today - no problem. Just wanted to get it checked in before the weekend.

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qnetter · 2022-01-24T19:23:03Z

@joshrosso the urlint fail works fine for me manually - any ideas?

Co-authored-by: Kay ORiordan <koriordan@vmware.com>

joshrosso · 2022-01-27T19:25:09Z

The table is not formatted correctly:

joshrosso · 2022-01-28T16:11:49Z

@qnetter the engineering team is waiting on this roadmap to determine where we should go from here.

Do you think we could knock out the formatting asap? Or would you like us to step in and fix the table?

Fix table.

Last few typos.

stmcginnis

A few issues pointed out.

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joshrosso · 2022-01-28T18:39:38Z

source now looks good but formatted version does not reflect changes.

The formatted version does reflect the source, but the source has issues.

I'm going to update the formatting and push a new commit.

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joshrosso

fixed formatting; blocking to get feedback from engineering team.

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Reworded roadmap discussion guidelines to prioritize Issues and scheduled community meeting sessions.

Split package maintainer item into two

Lots of rewording to reduce duplication, resurface good first issues, etc.

Fixed the date.

Updated release of unmanaged-cluster to 0.10

Fixed awkward Bitnami/kubeapps item.

qnetter · 2022-02-01T07:37:22Z

Could I know more about the "developer UI experience" roadmap item?

@kartiklunkad26, you may be looking at an old commit?

As I understand PM's plan, TCE has no plans of targeting a developer-focused UI.

Here is the item that relates to a UI:

If you want details on that UI idea, @qnetter can fill you in.

At some point, the Tanzu Application Platform OSS components in Tanzu Community Edition will include developer dashboards.

qnetter · 2022-02-01T07:38:27Z

@vmware-tanzu/tce-owners please re-review.

mdlint fix.

This time mdlint.

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dvonthenen · 2022-02-01T16:19:06Z

@dvonthenen This is not a roadmap for the repo. A roadmap for the repo is useful to contributors but less so to users. Users need to see a roadmap for the entire project, not just for the repo.

I'm totally cool with that... my only comment was if the work isn't being done in the repo, we should point to where the work and/or proposals are being done (ie pointers to issues and proposals in other repos aka Tanzu Framework).

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qnetter

I guess I didn't realize I had to submit before comments could be seen. Sorry that my ignorance caused worry and upset..

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qnetter · 2022-01-31T21:21:41Z

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+| |Provide guidance on bringing new provider packages to TCE; enabling the inclusion of new infrastructure providers | Awaiting Proposal (dependent on Tanzu Kubernetes Provider implementation) | TBD |
+| |Introduce kubeapps to TCE for discovering and installation packages in Bitnami library [(issue)](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/community-edition/issues/2418) | Awaiting Proposal | TBD |
+| Better defined LCM Cluster API extensibility points |Build the Runtime Extension SDK in Cluster API for ClusterClass patching, pre/post control plane upgrade hooks | Awaiting proposal | TBD |
+| Accelerate time to bootstrap Cluster API management clusters | Consider more efficient and resource-saving methods to bootstrap | Awaiting proposal | TBD |


This is saying that the project should CONSIDER where the time sinks are in the Cluster-API based process - where time and big resources are spent - and determine with the Framework and upstream teams whether and how we might address them. The work item for now is exploration, not development. Use of CAPI is a requirement from above.

Also, while use of CAPI is a requirement, the actual bootstrap machinery doesn't necessarily have to be a cluster... the management and workload clusters, of course, must be CAPI-managed clusters.

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qnetter · 2022-01-31T22:57:02Z

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+| |Provide guidance on bringing new provider packages to TCE; enabling the inclusion of new infrastructure providers | Awaiting Proposal (dependent on Tanzu Kubernetes Provider implementation) | TBD |
+| |Introduce kubeapps to TCE for discovering and installation packages in Bitnami library [(issue)](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/community-edition/issues/2418) | Awaiting Proposal | TBD |
+| Better defined LCM Cluster API extensibility points |Build the Runtime Extension SDK in Cluster API for ClusterClass patching, pre/post control plane upgrade hooks | Awaiting proposal | TBD |
+| Accelerate time to bootstrap Cluster API management clusters | Consider more efficient and resource-saving methods to bootstrap | Awaiting proposal | TBD |


I'm not following why this theme is separate from Enhance cloud-native user experience for skilled and new users, which includes a faster setup time for unmanaged clusters.

In my mind, these are similar or the same, but perhaps I'm missing something.

It's an artifact of how it was contributed - they should ands will be merged.

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qnetter

Hope this goes and the comments were all sent.

qnetter

I hope comments were received.

@vmware-tanzu/tce-owners Please re-review.

stmcginnis

My concerns have been addressed.

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@kcoriordan

typos. Thanks @kcoriordan ! Co-authored-by: Kay ORiordan <koriordan@vmware.com>

joshrosso

We've decided to merge this and iterate on future suggestions through github issues.

Thanks everyone!

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