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# TLA+ Meeting 01/25/2022 | ||
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2m: | ||
* Ron in contact with Oracle over some program to get money for researchers | ||
* Meeting in late February | ||
* Oracle had posted a verification engineer job based in India | ||
* Ron is unsure which team inside Oracle posted this job; cloud? Blockchain? | ||
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11m: | ||
* Going over chart of who should speak with what company | ||
* Andrew & Hillel - ask about Facebook? Have they used TLA+? | ||
* Facebook has asked around about TLA+ classes, uncertain whether any use | ||
* Need to finish one-pager to send to companies; Ron will work on this | ||
* Should membership structure be included in one-pager? | ||
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15m: | ||
* What about mid-size companies like CockroachDB, etc. | ||
* What would those mid-size companies want out of funding the foundation? | ||
* Anything less than $50k/year commitment from companies probably not worth effort | ||
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20m: | ||
* Use foundation as certification entity? Certified TLA+ engineer | ||
* Many other Linux foundation projects take this approach | ||
* Can certify teachers of TLA+ instead of engineers themselves | ||
* Markus is teaching TLA+ at Microsoft now | ||
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23m: | ||
* Consensus seems to be joining the Linux foundation | ||
* Trademark has to be moved to open source entity | ||
* For leaving, if we remain open source we can get trademark back (probably) | ||
* Onboarding to Linux foundation temporarily blocked for non-blockchain projects? | ||
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28m: | ||
* If we just get Microsoft and Amazon, that should be enough to start | ||
* Microsoft already gives a lot of money to TLA+ internally | ||
* Letters of intent - they have to talk to legal departments | ||
* Is it required to have donors before graduating from project to foundation? | ||
* Can Microsoft's internal TLA+ support be redirected to foundation? | ||
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47m: | ||
* Action items | ||
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50m: | ||
* Discussion about model-based testing vs. trace validation |
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