Exsiccata sets: Darwin Core Hour Input Form 1/11/2019 13:10:28

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Timestamp: 1/11/2019 13:10:28
Please provide a topic of interest: Some plant collections are parts of Exsiccata sets - and are better known as such rather than by collector and number. Is there a DwC term where this info could fit?
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Your name: Rich Rabeler
Your email: rabeler@umich.edu
Your GitHub username: RRabeler

[tucotuco]

Hi Rich,

Are you referring to the identifying information (such as accession numbers) for related material shared between herbaria? If that's the case, then the identifying information for the specimens in the other collections would fit naturally in the field otherCatalogNumbers.

[Jegelewicz]

the identifying information for the specimens in the other collections would fit naturally in the field otherCatalogNumbers

This is exactly what we do in Arctos. See UTEP:Herb:40583 for an example. IF the other collection has a unique web address for their specimens, we can provide a direct link. You can see how this works with GenBank in UTEP:Herb:30669. Unfortunately, we have had little success finding other plant collections with linking capability.

We keep a code table of potential collection IDs to help us find things from other collections.

[RRabeler]

John:

I don't think that's quite right. Here's an example so that you can see what I am referring to: https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1928842392. This record includes a photo of the NY sheet of Plantae Exsiccatae Grayanae #536. The number is often misplaced as belonging to the collector (recorded as "record number", but it actually belongs to the set. A good example showing tieing members of a set together across collections can be seen here: http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/exsiccati/index.php?omenid=2690#, where specimens of this exsiccata # can be easily located in 7 herbaria. See also IndExs (http://indexs.botanischestaatssammlung.de/) for more information about exsiccata sets.

[debpaul]

Might be good to ask Ed Gilbert about this. Deb Sent from Shoe (my iPhone) On Jan 14, 2019, at 5:20 PM, RRabeler <notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com>> wrote: John: I don't think that's quite right. Here's an example so that you can see what I am referring to: https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1928842392<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gbif.org_occurrence_1928842392&d=DwMFaQ&c=HPMtquzZjKY31rtkyGRFnQ&r=ODXYRdWm1Oqf5-w5G2NjQw&m=d45_W4k3QBYhCZKNWvWuQ9fLHrfe1eD2J24bot1aWfY&s=w2XQqJtSfiP_KJxKr8IZb1_ShTC-ovmD0YRnXkg7VO8&e=>. This record includes a photo of the NY sheet of Plantae Exsiccatae Grayanae #536. The number is often misplaced as belonging to the collector (recorded as "record number", but it actually belongs to the set. A good example showing tieing members of a set together across collections can be seen here: http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/exsiccati/index.php?omenid=2690#<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__macroalgae.org_portal_collections_exsiccati_index.php-3Fomenid-3D2690-23&d=DwMFaQ&c=HPMtquzZjKY31rtkyGRFnQ&r=ODXYRdWm1Oqf5-w5G2NjQw&m=d45_W4k3QBYhCZKNWvWuQ9fLHrfe1eD2J24bot1aWfY&s=6v04FH1W4aKUtgxOyY2Tyy2EwThxOY0lKxciLzgDXtU&e=>, where specimens of this exsiccata # can be easily located in 7 herbaria. See also IndExs (http://indexs.botanischestaatssammlung.de/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__indexs.botanischestaatssammlung.de_&d=DwMFaQ&c=HPMtquzZjKY31rtkyGRFnQ&r=ODXYRdWm1Oqf5-w5G2NjQw&m=d45_W4k3QBYhCZKNWvWuQ9fLHrfe1eD2J24bot1aWfY&s=eyDGsdK-WoV6MQTE-9_cJp4g4t6HYP0DWYGqasObEvo&e=>) for more information about exsiccata sets. — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_dwc-2Dqa_issues_129-23issuecomment-2D454183768&d=DwMFaQ&c=HPMtquzZjKY31rtkyGRFnQ&r=ODXYRdWm1Oqf5-w5G2NjQw&m=d45_W4k3QBYhCZKNWvWuQ9fLHrfe1eD2J24bot1aWfY&s=mzzVn1PmxSZs7nEvjiHmP9cp-YVMH0A1scUrCRrGQu0&e=>, or mute the thread<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_notifications_unsubscribe-2Dauth_AC2gS3mqrhIl7x1rilUaduhWxCAPk7xcks5vDQLFgaJpZM4Z779W&d=DwMFaQ&c=HPMtquzZjKY31rtkyGRFnQ&r=ODXYRdWm1Oqf5-w5G2NjQw&m=d45_W4k3QBYhCZKNWvWuQ9fLHrfe1eD2J24bot1aWfY&s=NxKYFmJWIw7CiyGUeAGHCQe548BuzVlmJIIat8iXqgk&e=>.

[egbot]

Good question. I don't know of a specific place within Darwin Core for exsiccati data. The best solution I can come up with is to put the exsiccati information in occurrenceRemarks and then list the related specimens in associatedOccurrences. See example below. If anyone has a better suggestion, please post.

For instance, following Rich's example: http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/exsiccati/index.php?omenid=2690

institutionCode: YPM
collectionCode: YU
catalogNumber: YU.091330
...
occurrenceRemarks: "Exsiccati: Phycotheca Boreali-Americana, a collection of dried specimens of the Algae of North America #250"
associatedOccurrences: {[{"specimen duplicate of": "http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=bbb4ff93-1f3d-4c7d-af6d-eb665bd5af29"},{"specimen duplicate of": "http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=e6ee9aa3-a9ab-49a5-87ad-3b7a24859667"},...]}

[RRabeler]

Ed: Thanks for the comment. A corollary question comes to mind. Do you know of anyone populating the Exsiccata fields in records in any of the Symbiota portals via an IPT? If so, what mapping are they using?? Rich Rabeler, MICH

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 6:42 PM Edward Gilbert ***@***.***> wrote: Good question. I don't know of a specific place within Darwin Core for exsiccati data. The best solution I can come up with is to put the exsiccati information in occurrenceRemarks and then list the related specimens in associatedOccurrences. See example below. If anyone has a better suggestion, please post. For instance, following Rich's example: http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/exsiccati/index.php?omenid=2690 institutionCode: YPM collectionCode: YU catalogNumber: YU.091330 ... occurrenceRemarks: "Exsiccati: Phycotheca Boreali-Americana, a collection of dried specimens of the Algae of North America #250" associatedOccurrences: {[{"specimen duplicate of": " http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=bbb4ff93-1f3d-4c7d-af6d-eb665bd5af29"},{"specimen duplicate of": " http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=e6ee9aa3-a9ab-49a5-87ad-3b7a24859667 "},...]} — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#129 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AscrBu9ORq7tnUDqDlieTQHO_jnPUYZNks5vDRXWgaJpZM4Z779W> .

[egbot]

Hi Rich, No I don’t. From a Symbiota portal this can be done using an IPT instance by linking from the exsiccate tables (e.g. omexsiccatititles, omexsiccatinumbers, omexsiccatiocclink). The exsiccati terms need to be added to the DwC-Archive that is exported by Symbiota. This is still on my todo list, but the list remains long…

-Ed From: RRabeler <notifications@github.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM To: tdwg/dwc-qa <dwc-qa@noreply.github.com> Cc: Edward Gilbert <egbot@asu.edu>; Comment <comment@noreply.github.com> Subject: Re: [tdwg/dwc-qa] Exsiccata sets: Darwin Core Hour Input Form 1/11/2019 13:10:28 (#129) Ed: Thanks for the comment. A corollary question comes to mind. Do you know of anyone populating the Exsiccata fields in records in any of the Symbiota portals via an IPT? If so, what mapping are they using?? Rich Rabeler, MICH

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 6:42 PM Edward Gilbert ***@***.******@***.***>> wrote: Good question. I don't know of a specific place within Darwin Core for exsiccati data. The best solution I can come up with is to put the exsiccati information in occurrenceRemarks and then list the related specimens in associatedOccurrences. See example below. If anyone has a better suggestion, please post. For instance, following Rich's example: http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/exsiccati/index.php?omenid=2690 institutionCode: YPM collectionCode: YU catalogNumber: YU.091330 ... occurrenceRemarks: "Exsiccati: Phycotheca Boreali-Americana, a collection of dried specimens of the Algae of North America #250" associatedOccurrences: {[{"specimen duplicate of": " http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=bbb4ff93-1f3d-4c7d-af6d-eb665bd5af29"},{"specimen<http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=bbb4ff93-1f3d-4c7d-af6d-eb665bd5af29%22%7d,%7b%22specimen> duplicate of": " http://macroalgae.org/portal/collections/individual/index.php?guid=e6ee9aa3-a9ab-49a5-87ad-3b7a24859667 "},...]} — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#129 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AscrBu9ORq7tnUDqDlieTQHO_jnPUYZNks5vDRXWgaJpZM4Z779W> .

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