Newbie Thoughts

[chrisjlocke]

• Will there be a page explaining what the certificates is about?
  

There is an option to create a certificate, but from a 'Newbies' point of view, what do I want with a certificate? Do I need one now? Do I need one per database? If I create a certificate, will the other ones be deleted? What if mty cat eats it? What if I lose it?

• Can the 'preferences' have a link to the preferences? I appreciate the preferences are only a short mouse move away (top of the screen) but when you're setting up a new account on a new site, sometimes its easy to miss these links.
  

• 'Email address can't be blank' - but it wasn't.... ;)
  

Yes, I know its pre-filled in, but if thats an example, can't it actually be filled in? (if that makes sense). As in, "yup, I don't want to give me address, so I'll go with your suggestion ... which I now have to type again...". I blindly clicked 'next' as the suggestion given was great, but of course, it wasn't filled in. Maybe a "if emailAddress = "" then emailAddress=suggestedEmailAddress'.......

• I presume its just a bit of CSS (says me...) but the text in menus has an I beam, not an arrow.

A minor thing, but 'pulls you out of the experience', if you know what I mean....

• Home isn't home. Clicking the '/' is the same as the main icon above it.
  

When you view someone elses databases, then want to view your own again, it would make more sense (? or not....) that the '/' would go to 'your' home, not 'the' home, which you can get to via the main 'dbhub.io' icon. Again, the 'where are my databases?' is tucked away at the top.... from a newbies point of view, its not that clear....

[chrisjlocke]

• Can the 'markdown' link open in a new tab?
  

Type a description, think, "ooh, markdown", click the link then lose what you've typed, as the markdown page opens....

[chrisjlocke]

• When typing in the description, etc, newlines don't seem to be working?
  

Edit: Aah, double lines? This doesn't occur in this box though.

[justinclift]

Awesome, thanks Chris! This is very appreciated, having "new user" eyes on this should definitely help with the initial intro experience. 😁

Will there be a page explaining what the certificates is about?

Definitely. I was thinking to do something animated-gif style later on today for new-user walkthroughs, and putting it in the start of a "Docs" section (on wiki) + add that to the currently-empty top menu bar.

Hmmm, it'd probably be useful to have a "new user intro" page which pops up the first time someone logs in, offering to point them at the new user content.

Related to this we probably need to add stuff to the DB4S wiki to show how to use the Remote panel. Animated gif style thing there would probably be optimal too. Hmmm... you seem to have a knack for that kind of thing... interested?

Can the 'preferences' have a link to the preferences?

Oops. Definitely. 😄

'Email address can't be blank' - but it wasn't.... ;)

Oh, hadn't thought of it from that point of view. Yeah, seems pretty do-able.

I presume its just a bit of CSS (says me...) but the text in menus has an I beam, not an arrow.

Ahhh, yep, pretty sure that can be adjusted fairly simply. Will do.

Home isn't home. Clicking the '/' is the same as the main icon above it.

Thanks. The concept hadn't occurred to me (I was so used to just using it for navigation to a root list of users pre-front-page). Now we have a front page though, I can definitely see how that makes sense. Should be trivial to adjust. 😄

Can the 'markdown' link open in a new tab?

Yep. 😄

When typing in the description, etc, newlines don't seem to be working?

Gah. Hadn't noticed that. That'll definitely need looking into as well. 😄

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k, going to go through and fix the easy ones right now.

[chrisjlocke]

• Create tag button on tags page

When you create a new tag, a 'new tag' button would be handy, otherwise, to add another tag, its a lot of 'back' button pushing.... ;)

[chrisjlocke]

you seem to have a knack for that kind of thing... interested?

Of course.... once I work it out myself! ;) 🐒
Throw down some text, and I can pad it out with screenshots and stuff. 📸

having "new users" eye on this should definitely help with the initial intro experience.

I get this at work - code an application, and because I know the workflow, don't always appreciate it from someone who doesn't know whats going on! The user says, "do I have to click this and then that?" "Yes, isn't it obvious? Why would you even click that other button first?" .... redesigns GUI...

[chrisjlocke]

• delete releases needs an 'are you sure?'

I clicked delete (as you would) and the release just deleted. An 'are you sure?' screen would be handy...although I appreciate they're a bitch to add.... (mroe screens, etc)

[chrisjlocke]

• new commit ... a newbie would (could) scratch their head a lot

It wasn't entirely obvious how to create a new commit. On the 'commits' screen, it lists the current ones, but no 'new'. Maybe add an 'upload database' button?
I'm guessing its being more driven by DB4S than the website? (I'm just website tinkering at the mo...)

Linked to this, if you have several databases uploaded, if you do add a database and it adds it as a commit, could this be confirmed to the user? If they upload 'dingle.db' which just so happens to be in their repository from 3 years ago, it might not be obvious this is a seperate database and not a commit related that database.... (if that makes sense....)

/re-adjusts newbie hat.... 🎩

[chrisjlocke]

• Downloading a database is +'d

Downloading a database with spaces in it, creates a filename with pluses in it instead. Is this by design?

(and brackets are HTML'ed)

[chrisjlocke]

• branches / tags / releases per database or per commit?

From a newbie point of view (which is why I've stuck it in here again) but are releases/branches/tags per database, or per commit?

I've created some branches from 2 different commits, but its showing as having branches/tags/releases overall, rather than per commit (or branch) as I'd have expected.... I guess it would be too confusing to have Tags: 1 (3) (as in 1 tag in this commit, 3 overall), etc....
I'm just muddying the waters, aren't I..... ;) 🍄

[justinclift]

Create tag button on tags page

Sure. I'm trying to think of what it should do though... take the user to the commits page so they can go from there, or something else? 😄

[justinclift]

delete releases needs an 'are you sure?'

Ahhh. Yep, didn't even occur to me. Will do. 😄

[justinclift]

new commit ... a newbie would (could) scratch their head a lot

Kind of like adding a "Create new commit" button on the commits page, and then hmm... maybe show an info thing saying something like "To create a new commit, just upload a database using the same name as the existing one. The new version of the database will be added as a commit." + maybe a button to continue to the upload page?