Add font Monaspace #1403

Finii · 2023-11-09T22:29:04Z

Version 1.0.0 just released.

It has an interesting idea to change the cell size visibly to make more room (if possible) for wide letters like m if they are next to small letters like i while keeping the cell grit intact.

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julien-blanchon · 2023-11-10T08:35:13Z

Is someone doing this issue ? Is it hard to do ?

kraklin · 2023-11-10T08:38:30Z

There is a part of contributing.md that says how to do it: https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts/blob/master/contributing.md#steps-for-adding-a-new-font-or-removing-an-existing-font

julien-blanchon · 2023-11-10T09:48:04Z

@kraklin I made a PR

redactedscribe · 2023-11-10T11:53:28Z

PR: #1405

Finii · 2023-11-10T13:01:03Z

Monaspace is a RFN.

The PR is filled in with false. Which is easy to correct, but

-=> We need a substitute name

As Monaspace is already a funny version of Monospace this is not so easy maybe.
Any ideas anyone?

cyklee · 2023-11-10T13:25:58Z

Any ideas anyone?

Nonaspace, Nanospace, Momaspace, Moonspace, Monaspice, Polyspace...

kraklin · 2023-11-10T13:25:59Z

Moonspace, LisaSpace, ManoSpace...

julien-blanchon · 2023-11-10T13:28:24Z

I like MoonSpace

loraderon · 2023-11-10T13:40:22Z

Monabase or Monasbase

redactedscribe · 2023-11-10T13:40:48Z

Monaspaced
Leospace
Nardospace
Microspace
Monamono

pradyunsg · 2023-11-10T14:21:11Z

Given how "Mononoki" (another RFN font with a similar license) is handled, can we not do the same here and use "Monaspace Nerd Font"?

Finii · 2023-11-10T16:39:32Z

Given how "Mononoki" (another RFN font with a similar license) is handled, can we not do the same here and use "Monaspace Nerd Font"?

Well, Nerd Fonts got an exemption from Mononoki's RFN license clause [1].
To keep the name we would need that also from Githubnext.
I know the pain but license conditions are license conditions unfortunately.

[1] #575 (comment)

pradyunsg · 2023-11-10T18:06:35Z

Oh, 100% -- I don't know enough to know what the right thing to do is. :)

In that case, should we @-mention one of the people on Githubnext's end to see if this is something that they'd grant an exception for?

Finii · 2023-11-10T19:17:18Z

Dear @idan!

There is a overwhelming demand for your great new font Monaspace.
We here at Nerd Fonts take terminal fonts and add some useful-for-developer glyphs (icons) to it for a better developer experience. Command line tools like exa show on directory listings the icon for the file type for example.

We do not touch the existing glyphs (except is some rare cases we drop one-cell-wide fi ligatures etc), but only add glyphs in the PUA codepoint blocks.

Because Monaspace has the RFN in place we will of course rename the fonts after extending, for example Monaspace Xenon might become MonispaceXe Nerd Font. Of course it would be nicer if we would get the permission to republish the changed font with a changed name but with the RFN'ed parts still intact, like MonaspaceXenon Nerd Font or in places where that is too long MonaspaceXenon NF. Never will a modified font be published under the original name, we always append Nerd Font or NF (and remove the blank).

Maybe you and your team can consider this RFN exception with the additional condition that we will always add our name to the font names to make the distinction clear for users.

Any answer (negative or positive) is appreciated.

Thank you!

Fini

This is how the naming would come out, also note some warnings.

Nerd Fonts Patcher v3.0.2-115 (4.6.1) (ff 20230101)
DEBUG: Monospace check: Panose is invalid ([0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0]); glyph-width-mono True
INFO: Setting Panose 'Family Kind' to 'Latin Text and Display' (was 'Any')
INFO: Setting Panose 'Proportion' to 'Monospaced' (was 'Any')
INFO: Redistributing line gap of 400 (200 top and 200 bottom)
DEBUG: Final font cell dimensions 1240 w x 2400 h
DEBUG: =====> Family (ID 1)      ok       (25 <=31): MonaspaceXenon NFM Medium
DEBUG: =====> SubFamily (ID 2)   ok       ( 6 <=31): Italic
DEBUG: =====> Fullname (ID 4)    ok       (32 <=63): MonaspaceXenon NFM Medium Italic
DEBUG: =====> PSN (ID 6)         ok       (30 <=63): MonaspaceXenonNFM-MediumItalic
DEBUG: =====> PrefFamily (ID 16) ok       (29 <=31): MonaspaceXenon Nerd Font Mono
DEBUG: =====> PrefStyles (ID 17) ok       (13 <=31): Medium Italic
DEBUG: Changing flags from 0xB to 0x3
DEBUG: Changing lowestRecPPEM from 8 to 7

After merging

Bugfix for Visual Studio 2022 #1406

The ID16 changed to MonaspaceXenon NFM.

Edit: Add information on ID16 change

idan · 2023-11-10T20:39:21Z

I am super hyped for this and of course everyone immediately wanted nerdfont and powerline.

Recovering today from the launch, I will be back to figure this out next week!

idan · 2023-11-11T01:40:56Z

See also: githubnext/monaspace#24

Finii · 2023-11-16T06:46:32Z

Maybe some of you want to try the patched font out, and report bugs. So we can fix the issues before release?

MonispaceNeonNerdFont.tar.xz.gz

Thank you!

P.S.: The archive is tar.xz for good compression and gz because Github does not support xz, sorry for the incenvenience

Finii · 2023-11-16T06:57:11Z

is Krypton version included?

No, as the name states that is Neon only. I thought one variant would be enough for tests? Is Krypton better?

sijad · 2023-11-16T07:03:14Z

it looks great on Alacritty macOS

but fonts name appear like this on Font book app, I'm not sure if this is an issue:

Finii · 2023-11-16T07:06:20Z

You mean Monispace instead of Monaspace, or Ne instead of Neon?
That is required until (if ever) we got the license issue (RFN) addressed.

Or NF instead of Nerd Font?

sijad · 2023-11-16T07:08:25Z

Or NF instead of Nerd Font?

this

Finii · 2023-11-16T07:18:42Z

Quite a lot of the fonts have NF (and NFM / NFP) in their name instead of the full length Nerd Font Propo etc.
The reason is that these fonts already have longish names and/or styles, and there is a (ridiculously short) length limit on font names. Although most software can work with longer names there is software out there that would not work with fonts with 'too long names'.

I guess that is not an for Neon, but Krypton will have small issues:

ERROR: ====-< Family (ID 1)      too long (33 > 31): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Medium
DEBUG: =====> SubFamily (ID 2)   ok       ( 6 <=31): Italic
DEBUG: =====> Fullname (ID 4)    ok       (40 <=63): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Medium Italic
DEBUG: =====> PSN (ID 6)         ok       (31 <=63): MonaspaceKryptonNF-MediumItalic
DEBUG: =====> PrefFamily (ID 16) ok       (26 <=31): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font
DEBUG: =====> PrefStyles (ID 17) ok       (13 <=31): Medium Italic

Fonts with some abbreviation mode active, Nerd Font becomes NF when the value is >= 4:

$ git grep makegroups
3270/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
CascadiaCode/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
FiraCode/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
Hasklig/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
IntelOneMono/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
Iosevka/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
IosevkaTerm/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
IosevkaTermSlab/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
JetBrainsMono/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
MPlus/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
MartianMono/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--name filename --makegroups 5"
Monaspace/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
Noto/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 5"
Overpass/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
RobotoMono/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 3"
SourceCodePro/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"
Ubuntu/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
UbuntuMono/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 2"
VictorMono/config.cfg:config_patch_flags="--makegroups 4"

Finii · 2023-11-16T07:23:30Z

But you are right, maybe better just use mode 2 that shortens the styles moderately, as that seems enough:

DEBUG: =====> Family (ID 1)      ok       (30 <=31): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Med
DEBUG: =====> SubFamily (ID 2)   ok       ( 6 <=31): Italic
DEBUG: =====> Fullname (ID 4)    ok       (37 <=63): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Med Italic
DEBUG: =====> PSN (ID 6)         ok       (28 <=63): MonaspaceKryptonNF-MedItalic
DEBUG: =====> PrefFamily (ID 16) ok       (26 <=31): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font
DEBUG: =====> PrefStyles (ID 17) ok       (13 <=31): Medium Italic

I will check that out, thanks for bringing it up! :-)

Edit:

Ah no, ... you see... looks bad.
And I believe it does not make sense to change NF <-> Nerd Font only for some Nerd Font variants, so one needs to look on Nerd Font Propo always, which is quite a mouthful.

ERROR: ====-< Family (ID 1)      too long (36 > 31): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Propo Med
DEBUG: =====> SubFamily (ID 2)   ok       ( 6 <=31): Italic
DEBUG: =====> Fullname (ID 4)    ok       (43 <=63): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Propo Med Italic
DEBUG: =====> PSN (ID 6)         ok       (29 <=63): MonaspaceKryptonNFP-MedItalic
ERROR: ====-< PrefFamily (ID 16) too long (32 > 31): MonaspaceKrypton Nerd Font Propo
DEBUG: =====> PrefStyles (ID 17) ok       (13 <=31): Medium Italic

jla2000 · 2023-11-16T07:50:26Z

@Finii Are the variable fonts also supported? Or only the static ones?

Finii · 2023-11-16T07:58:19Z

@jla2000 Nerd Font uses Fontforge which can not (really) work with variable fonts (VF). There is a loose plan to allow VF in the future but for this Fontforge needs to be exchanged to fonttools, and that is kind of a rewrite at least in some parts (i.e. will not come soon, unfortunately). (Can not find the relevant thread at the moment.)

Edit:

I believe it came up with Cascadia Code which is manually hinted in the VF. The static versions were once but are no more manually hinted and the ttfautohint results differ considerably from the manual hints. So people complain that the static Nerd Fonts version looks different to the default installed VF version 😬

jla2000 · 2023-11-17T08:08:47Z

Font looks nice btw in Windows Terminal 💯

ntcong · 2023-11-17T16:04:38Z

@Finii the font does not support full Vietnamese character set like the original font

Finii · 2023-11-17T18:24:18Z

@ntcong Ugg!?!! I will check, thanks for reporting. Can you give me some copy and paste text that should work?

ntcong · 2023-11-17T18:26:18Z

Here a few word and a (should be) complete set of character

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idan · 2023-11-17T18:32:34Z

Update from our end: alas, like other commercial fonts, we have to get Legal involved because Nerdfont has lots of logos of businesses. I have a hard time forecasting how long this is going to take.

But the good news is that there might be some work already happening for Cascadia Code (also MSFT) which we might be able to follow in the footsteps of. Stay tuned, just wanted to let you know that we're trying to figure this out!

In the meanwhile, I understand that folks are going to produce patched versions. I hope one day to make the patched versions obsolete! Stay tuned.

Finii · 2023-11-17T19:55:21Z

@idan Thanks for the feedback! Yes I also had discussions about this with Aaron already ;-)

I think for the time being we need to do a rename. Do you have any preference as name?
You find some suggestions above. I choose Monispace for the working drafts as that changes just one character and sounds similarish.
The noble gasses are substituted by their usual abbreviations, I guess that is the best solution.

Finii · 2023-11-19T20:44:48Z

Monaspace

Nonaspace
Nanospace
Momaspace
Moonspace
Monaspice
Polyspace
LisaSpace
ManoSpace
Monabase
Monasbase
Monaspaced
Leospace
Microspace
Monamono
Monispace

Other renames we do

RFN	renamed
`AnkaCoder`	`AnaConder`
`Anonymous`	`Anonymice`
`Bitstream Vera`	`Bitstrom Wera`
`Cascadia`	`Caskaydia`
`Hermit`	`Hurmit`
`Hasklig`	`Hasklug`
`Plex`	`Blex`
`IntelOne`	`Intone`
`Share`	`Shure`
`Liberation`	`Literation`
`Source`	`Sauce`
`Terminus`	`Terminess`

I asked around and most people found Monaspice the nicest and best pun.
Adapting the PR.

Finii · 2023-11-19T21:04:37Z

Big thanks to all who suggested names: @cyklee @kraklin @loraderon @redactedscribe

💚

firasrb · 2023-11-21T14:04:26Z

@Finii Sorry, I know that this is closed, but just a heads up: The link to Monaspice from the main page is broken. It directs to the following url, which gives a 404.: https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts/blob/master/patched-font/Monaspace

thewinger · 2023-11-21T14:40:45Z

@firasrb I think it will be in next release (3.1.0)

Finii · 2023-11-21T15:04:23Z

It will And release is within minutes, just preparing Brew now Sent from Nine

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Logerfo · 2023-11-21T17:55:02Z

Am I doing something wrong? Here's my terminal.integrated.fontFamily (vscode) and the results:

`FiraCode NFM Retina`

`MonaspiceNe NFM`

redactedscribe · 2023-11-21T19:41:43Z

Is it just me or does Monaspice look like it's always emboldened?

(Monaspice on the left with FiraCode for comparison):

I downloaded Monaspice via the scoop-nerd-fonts Scoop bucket. Haven't used the official non-patched Monaspace so I can't say if this is expected.

The Monaspice font used is MonaspiceNe NFM.

Finii · 2023-11-21T19:50:53Z

Please, create a regular issue if you have an issue.
Transferred the two above to separate issues.
Locking this thread, sorry.

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-=> We need a substitute name

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