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This improves type inference by removing most associated types. For example, the following function doesn't actually work:

fn foo<T: SimdElement>(x: Simd<T, 4>) -> Mask<T::Mask, 4>
where
    Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat,
{
    x.is_sign_negative()
}

You actually need the constraint Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat<Mask = Mask<T::Mask, 4>>.

With this PR, the function should look a little more like:

fn foo<T: SimdElement>(x: Simd<T, 4>) -> Mask<T::Mask, 4>
where
    Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat<T, 4>,
{
    x.is_sign_negative()
}

There are still a few instances that need associated types, but we can explore those individually to see if there's a better API.

Also, note that we now end up with a lot of instances of Mask<<T as SimdElement>::Mask, N>. We can either remove the SimdElement::Mask associated type with #483 or we can provide an alias to avoid writing that out.

/// The mask type returned by each comparison.
type Mask;

pub trait SimdPartialEq<T, const N: usize>
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imo N should be an associated #[type_const] but last I knew that's not done being implemented yet.

something like:

pub trait SimdLen {
    #[type_const]
    const LEN: usize;
}

impl<T: SimdElement, const N: usize> SimdLen for Simd<T, N> {
    #[type_const]
    const LEN: usize = N;
}

impl<T: MaskElement, const N: usize> SimdLen for Mask<T, N> {
    #[type_const]
    const LEN: usize = N;
}

pub trait SimdBase: SimdLen {
    type Element: SimdElement;
}

impl<T: SimdElement, const N: usize> SimdBase for Simd<T, N> {
    type Element = T;
}

pub trait SimdPartialEq: SimdBase {
    fn simd_eq(self, other: Self) -> Mask<<Self::Element as SimdElement>::Mask, { Self::LEN }>;
    ...
}

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that would allow your example function's bounds to just be:

fn foo<T: SimdElement>(x: Simd<T, 4>) -> Mask<T::Mask, 4>
where
    // output types are completely deduced from the blanket
    // SimdBase and SimdLen impls so no additional bounds are needed
    Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat,
{
    x.is_sign_negative()
}

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sadly, it seems that hits the bug where specifying bounds hides information that could be deduced so the bound ends up having to be:
Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat<Element = T, LEN = 4>

https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&mode=debug&edition=2024&gist=c84993a34513e1f45a01b986533be269

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I got it to work with just Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat by removing SimdFloat: SimdBase and instead having where Self: SimdBase on all items in the trait.

https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&mode=debug&edition=2024&gist=c13634f70837e4b761b6a19592d069d9

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do we have to be bull-headed about getting something "incomplete" into core, then...?

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Agreed, I'm a little conflicted because there do seem to be some ergonomics gains but I'd like to stick to features we can stabilize relatively soon so people can actually use the module

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I don't think mGCA is quite ready for actual use yet so it'd still have to wait a bit.

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here's a messier workaround with no unstable features that has the exact same ergonomics as using #[type_const] for known length:
https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&mode=debug&edition=2024&gist=02bdc66a7bf980b3b028474f47a2023f

basically there's an associated type that mostly acts like an associated #[type_const]

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it also has just as nice ergonomics when the length is a const generic:
https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&mode=debug&edition=2024&gist=29fba8f75be0e771bb5fd580e77f9c89

fn foo<T: SimdElement>(x: Simd<T, 4>) -> Mask<T::Mask, 4>
where
    Simd<T, 4>: SimdFloat,
{
    x.is_sign_negative()
}

fn bar<T: SimdElement, const N: usize>(x: Simd<T, N>) -> Mask<T::Mask, N>
where
    Simd<T, N>: SimdFloat,
{
    x.is_sign_negative()
}

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