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Is BCM94360NG viable? #197
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By success, I mean having it natively supported without any changes being made to specifically support it. |
I myself have not tried it but would be very interested to hear how it goes. |
My eBay purchase has arrived in Australia so I probably have a good chance that I will have it by the end of the week. I will report my findings as soon as I can. Hopefully somebody will beat me to it. |
My parcel has been halted by a Customs exception (invalid paperwork from China). I won't see it now until 19th March! |
Basically I don't think this is an Apple Airport Card. And searching on Taobao (native AliExpress in China) there's no result about this BCM94360NG, which is very weird. The picture is not photographed but basically a drawing. With all of these, and shipping from China, I would think there's something not quite right XD. But hope you'll have a good result. Anyway I do suggest using an Apple Card, whether if you're using a flex cable adapter or giving up a M.2 slot. |
I already had an Apple Airport Card, adapter and associated cables on order. My colleagues at Broadcom insist there is no such part BUT also conceded it would be easy to build using existing components. Only time will tell. |
Interesting. I’m also looking forward to it. Very curious. |
Curiosity has got the better of me, so just ordered one! Ordered from Aliexpress from the Fenvi official store - even if a franken-card at least made by someone reputable. Shame it will take a few weeks to get to me. |
Ive ordered it as well a week ago. Hopefully it will be sent soon with the extended shipping times due to the cov19. I'll keep you updated it I'm the first one who will get their hands on it 👍 |
The race is on! |
TL;DR: Yes! I can confirm that BCM94360NG works really well! NO PATCH NEEDED! After reading this comment #191 (comment) and carefully inspecting what the listing says, I decided to give it a shot. Because the listing says the seller is based in the USA, I was hoping the card to arrive in at least two weeks. Oddly enough, the seller is actually based in Shenzhen and the card was shipped out by SF-Express the very next business day. Within 24h I have received this card. Upon the first boot after installation, Wi-Fi was already up on the login screen. After logging in, the system just couldn't discover my Magic Trackpad and Magic Keyboard, although my NVIDIA SHIELD TV in the next room was instantly discovered. Of course, I wouldn't want to give up that easily. I rebooted macOS, and now everything seems to work! I even tried several reboots and everything still works like a charm, including AirDrop & Continuity! PS: I'm on macOS Catalina 10.15.3. I haven't tested it on Windows yet (I have a dual-disk dual-boot setup) but I have no reason to think this won't on Windows. PS2: My magic keyboard & magic trackpad works during system boot (so you can make changes to the BIOS or select a different boot device) and in the OpenCore picker UI. It's a BIG PLUS! 长话短说:BCM94360NG 在我的机器上工作得很好,不需要安装任何补丁或者驱动。 看完这条评论 #191 (comment) 并研究了商品页面的描述之后我立即下了个单。本来以为卖家是美国的,东西到手要半个月了,没想到卖家在深圳,第二天就顺丰包邮发出来了,次日晚上收到。 安装后的第一次启动,在登录界面上 Wi-Fi 已经自动边上了。登录之后,系统没有认出来我的 Magic Trackpad 和 Magic Keyboard,但是隔壁房间的 NVIDIA SHIELD TV 直接就认出来了。 我尝试重启了一下系统,重启完了之后键盘和触摸板都能认出来了,而且工作得很正常。我又尝试了几次重启,都没有问题,irDrop 和 Continuity 也是完美了! 另外系统版本是 10.5.3,还没有测试 Windows(双硬盘双启动),但是相信不会有问题。可以直接 用蓝牙键盘按 F2 进入 BIOS 或者在 OpenCore 的菜单里移动选择。 |
That's great news - thanks for the report @welladamm! One thing I was excited for was the ability to use a bluetooth keyboard during boot to get to BIOS ("HID Proxy" mode) - this card should support that, like Macs do. Do you think you could test that please? |
I forgot to mention this: yes, my magic keyboard & magic trackpad works during system POST phase and in OpenCore Picker. I can press F2 to enter BIOS and make changes to it without any problem. I will amend my comment with this information. |
@welladamm Do you happen to know if Apple Watch unlocking works? |
@welladamm Many thanks for the update! @chrisallen Yes, Apple Watch unlocking is the current "ultimate" test. I look forward to a successful test. |
Im surprised the community wasnt aware of these cards. Its the perfect solution for the nuc. I started eyeing them in november! Wish I said something sooner. |
Thank you for the updates, @welladamm Can you share the vendor_id & device_id & sub device id or your 94360NG? If you can take the following screenshots (like the ones below) for you card, that will be very helpful: 你能帮忙分享一下系统里显示的这个网卡的设备号、子设备号嘛? |
@goodbest as you requested: |
@welladamm i couldn't find any related link with taobao, guess this one is some custom made model? |
You can see a physical photo of this card, shown in this post I think the |
@goodbest i am trying to contact the seller at taobao, according to them is out of stock ATM will update again if any news |
@welladamm |
Looks like a great card, am looking to purchase one as well. Thanks for posting about it. Are you able to report whether it remembers device pairings (e.g. Magic Keyboard + Mouse) after a power cycle, like Apple's WiFi/BT combo cards, so that we can use such HIDs for FileVault Preboot? |
Tested. In BIOS GUI, both below bluetooth keyboard and mouse works perfectly. Press fn+F2 enter into BIOS though the chance is low due to fast post procedure(limited time window to activate bluetooth and press F2). Logitech M557 bluetooth Issue: seems antenna connector is a little bit smaller than original intel WiFi card so the antenna connection is not tight. Trying to replace them with the seller. |
I can confirm that unlocking with Apple Watch works as it should. @JeffreyVIP I can also confirm that the WiFI Antenna Connector is problematic and won't click firmly into place. Strangely, the AUX connector is OK?! |
@BCMOSX86 Strange, this is very similar to the fix my eBay seller offered. Here is my reply:- I am an engineer by trade so I have already tried your suggested approach using a micro clamp. The problem is that even with the clamp in place, the interior pin does not make a solid connection with the internal receptacle and WIFI reception is reduced to approx 8 metres. If I apply any more pressure to the clamp, I fear that I might permanently damage the NUC IPEX4 plug. |
Hmm, I haven't received mine yet and now I am worried about how to secure the antenna if it is loose. Where does one get a plastic guard like that? Bit of a shame, thought this was the perfect card as I didn't really want to have to do any 'hacks' - in software or physical! |
This should be known issues according to seller. Their official shop at taobao offering me the same solution on this Maybe consider to re-solder a standard IPEX 4 connector on the wireless card ? |
@komax74 @shadowed87 i don’t think you’ll get much help on here as this is for macOS on the Intel Hades Canyon NUC only I’m afraid. All I can say is it works in windows on the NUC. |
@komax74 I'm not able to have the BIOS recognize the Bluetooth but Wi-Fi is working on Catalina. Before I wiped my 9570, I tested the Fenvi BCM94360NG and Wi-Fi worked, Bluetooth was also recognized. Right now, Bluetooth doesn't work and I suspect it has to do with USB port mapping of the USBInjectAll.kext USBPorts.kext and SSDT-USBX. I also can't get AppleALC.kext to work with the 3.5 mm headphone jack but that's irrelevant to this topic. Will possibly give the port remapping if I'm actually motivated. I planned for a Hackintosh triple boot setup along with Windows and Linux. So far, macOS is stable. @shadowed87 I had Windows 10 2004 to work with the driver from the Fenvi website only by installing from the .inf and not .exe. For some reason, the InstallShield installer was giving me errors. Wi-Fi worked after that, Bluetooth was also recognized by Windows but I didn't get to test it because I wiped everything and started my Hackintosh build. I didn't experience any crashes after installing the drivers on an XPS 9570 though. |
I installed the inf file as you said. |
@sffjawsh |
@shadowed87 |
I went crazy trying to find the drivers for Windows, so you're welcome lol. Found theme here: https://github.com/sarkrui/Z390M-Pro4-i7-9700K-Hackintosh |
Hello guys I just had a BCM94360NG for my Mac I found out with bootcamp drivers using this tutorial You can download here the bootcamp utility that I did Then Go to => Device Manager => right click on the unknown device He will found wifi and bluetooth drivers there ;) |
Did you manage to solve them? The card works on macOS and Windows 10, as others have explained + recognizes bluetooth devices (Magic Mouse + Magic Keyboard) on both OS, which is great! Any ideas/suggestions? |
I'm sorry I couldn't share the solution. |
I made it work by masking the WiFi card! |
How so? Which pins did you mask? Do you have any picture? Thank you very much for the quick reply! |
I masked 54 and 56! I referred to this site. |
@hazemturki On Windows I already made an answer on top of this => here I had to redo it twice too understand mistakes, and make it works. PS: I did not remove any pin or hardware stuff, only software!! It is a native Apple card.. |
@Phenek Thanks for your response. |
I just got one of these cards and installing the driver from fenvi's site causes my Windows installation to completely freeze after a few seconds, and my computer freezes on the spinning circles during subsequent boots. The driver download on fenvi's site seems to go to a desktop PCIe WiFi card's driver, which I'm assuming is the cause of the crashes. I see some people saying their Windows Update downloaded a driver for their cards, but mine doesn't seem to do that.... I'm on Windows 10 2004 if that makes a difference. I'll try starting with OSX and use the Boot Camp drivers instead and see if that changes anything. |
I'm on Big Sur 11.2.1 with an XPS 9570 and noticed that AirDrop stops working after a long sleep... has anyone else encountered this issue? My AirDrop always seems to be "off" in Control Center after waking the laptop... I'm not sure what's going on. |
@blanboom Hi friend! Could you tell me how do you did that? I got this card but I get only 200mbps. and I can't connect 5ghz. |
Not recommend if you build a PC hack. It's true that it's working out box for Mac. But I have some connection issues with BT5.0 speakers. Looks like the signal is interfered with the wifi even though I switch wifi to 5G. For me I would go for apple original wifi card with a M.2 adapter. |
i have this card in am asus z370-i, i did the usb port mapping and set up hs14 as internal back when i was running clover. under opencore i reused that, but i am new to opencore and havent refined my setup with it yet. anyway - bluetooth works, and works in the UEFI bios and clover/opencore picker too. But - I can't get any of my headphones to work. Bose QC35, and airpods pro pair, but will only play audio that 'skips' so badly that 90% of it is gone. They both do the same thing under windows too. My only clue so far is that I was able to get airpods to pair and play under ubuntu linux (they wouldn't pair at all), by changing the bluetooth mode from 'dual' to 'bdedr'. up until this point i thought i had bad antennas. |
Swap main and aux antenna connectors. |
Since people were reporting mixed successes, I will report that the BCM94360NG card worked nearly out-of-the-box for me with all the latest versions (macOS 12.3.1 and Windows 11). Easy to install as it requires no modifications to swap. Mac simply worked (including auto-unlock, apple pay in safari from phone, and so on–but apparently best to wait to sign into your Apple account until after inserting the card, else resetting it in Keychain is very annoying). For Windows, I needed to install both the WiFi then afterwards the bluetooth drivers from http://en.fenvi.com/. |
Do you use this card on battery? I had this card before but it freezes on battery. |
Has anyone found a good solution for the antenna connection? The connectors are very loose and keep popping out on their own. Apart from that the card works great, been using more than a year and faced no problems at all. |
Anybody able to fix halved WiFi speeds on this card in macOS Monterey? |
back to the freezing issue, POTENTIAL SOLUTION: I've spent an ungodly amount troubleshooting this, this is either caused by a memory address conflict or driver conflict. The card conflicts with one of the PCIe root express ports. if you go to event viewer, under system logs, you will see WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR. you can also see where it conflicts under system information - conflicts/sharing. I can't explain why, but the only way I've been able to get rid of the WHEA error and freezing for me is by using a specific PCIe controller driver for my laptop, I have an intel 10875h CPU, Eluktronics MECH 15 G3R Laptop. you may also want to move around your NVME or SSD hard drive to other PCIe slots, that can also potentially avoid the PCIe conflict. It may not play nicely with some NVMe storage controllers either potentially, but I need other people to confirm that. This is the PCIe Controller driver that fixed the freezing for me: you can also change advanced Wi-Fi settings for better stability by disabling wake on magic packets and minimum power consumption Broadcom Wifi driver version i'm using is [7.77.119.0] |
is it 5G 867mb speed working after pin masking? |
Hi! For all guys that are getting BCM94360NG freezing on Windows 11, take a look to your ethernet and if it's Realtek PCIe GbE Family Controller, this is the cause of freezes when install the WiFi card. You need to update the Ethernet driver for this one below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/13KTCZbeEnQUge8BQ8pK8Lwd2XikDNPyk/view?usp=sharing It fixed my issue. Let me know if it worked for you too. |
Apologies, don't want to treat this issue board like a forum, but before I purchase / be the guinea pig, wondered if anyone had used a BCM94360NG with HaC-Mini and had any success?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Broadcom-BCM94360NG-WiFi-Card-better-than-DW1560-BT4-0-Adapter-802-11ac-1200Mbps/283783627652
Did a search but could only find links to it, no reports of anyone actually using one.
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