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Would it be worthwhile to plumb a flag through to indicate whether or not a fallback is available (ie, is this (now thinking very hard about my use of |
Agreed. But on the flip side, we also want to consider the single large newly created file. It'd be a shame to end up making a full copy of it because we didn't want to wait for the sync. Yeah, plumbing a flag through seems like the thing to do. |
@robn I was several times thinking about limiting minimal block size to either clone or deduplicate, since it might be not really efficient to clone or dedup too small file(s), unless there is going to be a huge number of those blocks (though we don't know that in advance). But if application explicitly uses This change though I don't think I will object. We already have exactly the same situation for |
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Alright, I'm persuaded for now. I'll flip it locally (2.3) and see how it feels for the next little while. Most likely I don't even notice!
Any feature relying on |
One of the original strenghts of ZFS, aside reliability and stability of the implementation, was its well thought-out caching design. The ARC has traditionally seen 99%+ long term hitrates in all setups we ever had. And similarly, with dirty data write back, we appreciated the clever design from the start - it turned a lot of what would be random writes all over, into one linear write-out, limited only by sequential write speed of underlying hardware (or, well, almost-linear). That was especially nice for rotational drives, but may be not as relevant for current M.2, even though they have a huge discrepancy between linear and random write access too - we don't reach the speeds yet. But when we do, it will be noticeable in comparison with other CoW FS doing a similar thing, if we're stuck in a writeback sync loop. In our latest setup on the 128 core / 2 TB RAM boxes, we have patched ZFS to allow for far greater
In cases, where If tuned properly, OpenZFS is able to take on pretty huge aggregation of very random workloads. So far the situation with OpenZFS is shaping up very similarly to MySQL - defaults set for very small systems and if you want to run a larger thing and fully take advantage of what the code can do, there's a 'High Performance MySQL' bible explaining all the tunables and how to tune them. Well, except such a book is yet to be written for OpenZFS :) I am absolutely fine with defaults, that work well for the desktop. In terms of various thresholds, data sizes etc. - overly relying on On "my" systems, I always establish a loadavg baseline, around which the system hovers if everything is working properly and then go on a hunt if things aren't OK - maybe ZED could do some fiddling of the tunables if we come up with heuristics that work in most use-cases. A huge if, but may be worth a try. (That could save the need for a book on how to tune OpenZFS) |
Update the default FICLONE and FICLONERANGE ioctl behavior to wait on dirty blocks. While this does remove some control from the application, in practice ZFS is better positioned to the optimial thing and immediately force a TXG sync. Signed-off-by: Brian Behlendorf <behlendorf1@llnl.gov>
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Motivation and Context
#17446
Description
Update the default FICLONE and FICLONERANGE ioctl behavior to wait on dirty blocks. While this does remove some control from the application, in practice ZFS is better positioned to the optimial thing and immediately force a TXG sync.
How Has This Been Tested?
Existing test case.
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