Node.js Foundation Modules Team Meeting 2018-11-07

[MylesBorins]

Time

UTC Wed 07-Nov-2018 20:00 (08:00 PM):

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Links

• Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PdkHSzthrjBHx3OzUaEL5Vqa2L4WtAs8WdJl_L6HT6E/edit
• Previous Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10HOj79n61bSGXEh6CKfaeB4mc0KW4wwB_EsTh6MVs1k/edit

Agenda

Extracted from modules-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

Approving PRs (13 minute timebox)

• Add @ryzokuken as Observer #213
  • 1 minute timbox
• @bmacnaughton requesting membership/observer #211
  • 1 minute timbox
• governance: be explicit about meetings new members can join #218
  • 1 minute timebox
• esm: refactor dynamic modules #9
  • 5 minute timebox
• Add format distinction to phase 2 #215
  • 5 minute timebox

Update on Progress (1 minute timebox)

• Surveys: Members formally taking ownership (leadership) is the next step #209
  • 1 minute timebox

Discussion (40 Minute Timebox)

• keeping ecmascript-modules up to date #197
  • 10 minute timebox
• Dynamic Modules Status #188
  • 10 minute timebox
• esm resolver spec and implementation refinements #12
  • 15 minute timebox
• Explicit package exports proposal (https://github.com/jkrems/proposal-pkg-exports)
  • 5 minute timebox (if there is time)

Invited

• Modules team: @nodejs/modules

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with modules-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

• link for participants: https://zoom.us/j/656987750
• For those who just want to watch: https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live

[MylesBorins]

I will not be around tomorrow unfortunately, will anyone else be able to chair / get the stream going?

Is agenda looking good? anything missing?

[SMotaal]

I just went through and removed the modules-agenda label from some issues to make time for the more pressing Phase 2 discussions.

Here is what I deferred: #184, #173, #182

Only #209 needs to be mentioned, not really a discussion, just to try to bring to the attention of the group that the next steps fall on everyone involved and my personal view on the future implications of a successful survey.

[guybedford]

@SMotaal I've updated the agenda to reflect this. Did you still want to discuss #169 as well?

[guybedford]

I've tentatively added an agenda item for the explicit package exports proposal, but we will have to see how the timing works out if we can fit this in.

[SMotaal]

@guybedford Let's defer #209 and #169 to next meeting to free up needed time as per emails.

Specific to #209, I think the actual discussion can move to next meeting, but can you please bring it to attention of the group so that everyone would take the time to read it afterwards, act, discuss or ignore as they see fit.

@MylesBorins sorry just caught your comment above 😊

[SMotaal]

@inidaname: you added modules-agenda to #85 back in May21… is it safe to assume it is not relevant for this meeting?

If so, can we also remove the label until it is needed?

[MylesBorins]

I've updated the agenda to reflect the above conversation. I've left #209 on the agenda as a 1 minute item for a very quick update. Explicit package exports proposal has a 5 minute timebox at the end of the meeting, but we will be able to spend more time on it if we wrap up other items faster

[GeoffreyBooth]

Within the discussion timebox, could we discuss the items related to Phase 2 first? To try to keep momentum going. If we run out of time I'd rather lose the non-Phase 2 topics.

[devsnek]

we can't actually do any code until the repo is updated. 197 should be a top priority.

[MylesBorins]

@devsnek do you have a proposal for how we should manage the fork to keep it up to date?

[devsnek]

@MylesBorins someone needs to rebase it. same process that happens in nodejs/node-v8 and nodejs/node#canary-base

[jdalton]

I'll likely miss this one but I reviewed, approved, updooted the approving PR section items.

[MylesBorins]

I've added #218 as a 1 minute timebox item

[MylesBorins]

For some reason zoom is refusing to load for me right now, apologies for delay

[giltayar]

I can't connect for some reason.

[SMotaal]

Zoom needs a 5 second bleep button and maybe in our case a 5 minute one is more useful 😅