Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2020-05-07

[mhdawson]

Time

UTC Thu 07-May-2020 20:00 (08:00 PM):

Timezone	Date/Time
US / Pacific	Thu 07-May-2020 13:00 (01:00 PM)
US / Mountain	Thu 07-May-2020 14:00 (02:00 PM)
US / Central	Thu 07-May-2020 15:00 (03:00 PM)
US / Eastern	Thu 07-May-2020 16:00 (04:00 PM)
London	Thu 07-May-2020 21:00 (09:00 PM)
Amsterdam	Thu 07-May-2020 22:00 (10:00 PM)
Moscow	Thu 07-May-2020 23:00 (11:00 PM)
Chennai	Fri 08-May-2020 01:30 (01:30 AM)
Hangzhou	Fri 08-May-2020 04:00 (04:00 AM)
Tokyo	Fri 08-May-2020 05:00 (05:00 AM)
Sydney	Fri 08-May-2020 06:00 (06:00 AM)

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Links

• Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10GdjaFuSTdq6x_jW3ZniYBqMyQWhtMQ9nHLLR9LuY0w/edit

Agenda

Extracted from tsc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

• src,win: Replacement of unsupported versions of Windows runtime exit. #33108
• Dispute of "block running on EOL Windows versions #31954" - Alternative Suggestion #33034
• process: Throw exception on --unhandled-rejections=default #33021
• http: align with stream.Writable #31818

nodejs/TSC

• Nominations for TSC Chair - Open April 16 through 30th 2020 #851
• Node.js future directions - any interest in online or in person summit? #797

nodejs/admin

• Audit Google account access #389

Invited

• Anna Henningsen @addaleax (TSC)
• Anatoli Papirovski @apapirovski (TSC)
• Beth Griggs @BethGriggs (TSC)
• Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (TSC)
• Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (TSC)
• Daniel Bevenius @danbev (TSC)
• Franziska Hinkelmann @fhinkel (TSC)
• Gabriel Schulhof @gabrielschulhof (TSC)
• Gireesh Punathil @gireeshpunathil (TSC)
• James Snell @jasnell (TSC)
• Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (TSC)
• Matheus Marchini @mmarchini (TSC)
• Matteo Collina @mcollina (TSC)
• Michael Dawson @mhdawson (TSC)
• Myles Borins @MylesBorins (TSC)
• Ruben Bridgewater @BridgeAR (TSC)
• Sam Roberts @sam-github (TSC)
• Michaël Zasso @targos (TSC)
• Tobias Nießen @tniessen (TSC)
• Rich Trott @Trott (TSC)
• Shelley Vohr @codebytere (TSC)

Observers/Guests

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with tsc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

Zoom link: https://zoom.us/j/611357642
Regular password

Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the TSC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for that.

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[Trott]

Moderation Team activity: Discussions of some activities/reports, but no moderation actions taken. (@nodejs/moderation Correct me if I'm wrong!) For example, in one case, an individual self-moderated before the Moderation Team took action.

@nodejs/tsc @nodejs/community-committee

[Trott]

Strategic Initiatives! Let's hear about 'em!

Initiative	Champion	Links
Modules	@MylesBorins	https://github.com/nodejs/modules
Core Promise APIs	@mcollina
V8 Currency	@targos
QUIC / HTTP3	@jasnell	https://github.com/nodejs/quic
Startup performance	@joyeecheung	nodejs/node#17058 nodejs/node#21563
Build resources	@mhdawson	nodejs/build#1154 (comment)

[ljharb]

for modules, the EP is pretty out of date; I think you may want https://github.com/nodejs/modules ? (feel free to hide this comment either way)

[targos]

V8 Currency:

Working on the update to V8 8.3: nodejs/node#32831 V8 8.3 is ready to land on master. Waiting for stable upstream release.
We have FreeBSD build errors (in freebsd-specific code) and no response from the FreeBSD team so far. Fixed upstream.

[Trott]

for modules, the EP is pretty out of date; I think you may want https://github.com/nodejs/modules ? (feel free to hide this comment either way)

The whole table was copy/pasted from https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/blob/master/Strategic-Initiatives.md, so if anyone wants to open a pull request there to update it, please do!

[Trott]

for modules, the EP is pretty out of date; I think you may want https://github.com/nodejs/modules ? (feel free to hide this comment either way)

The whole table was copy/pasted from https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/blob/master/Strategic-Initiatives.md, so if anyone wants to open a pull request there to update it, please do!

Never mind. I did it: #861

[mcollina]

Promises:

There are some discussion around Thenable and AsyncLocalStorage in nodejs/node#33189.
Promise hooks (used by async_hooks) are going to get faster by nodejs/node#32891.

[Qard]

I'm happy to join any discussion about nodejs/node#33189, or to start a separate discussion, to explain why the current state of thenables is such an issue and to work out how to deal with the problem. It's a fairly complex issue that is not adequately solved by any of the existing "fixes" we have and the nuance and complexity makes it difficult to explain adequately in text.

[mmarchini]

(Sharing here for visibility)

If you have any comments on the proposed unhandled rejection survey, please share it in the PR: #857. It would be good to move forward with the survey so we can unblock nodejs/node#33021.

[mhdawson]

• Build resources
  • Have gotten info from one potential provider, need to sync with Robin on how to review/next steps.

[mhdawson]

@mcollina do you think we should discuss nodejs/node#33189 in the meeting and invite @Qard ?

[mcollina]

I think the discussion is progressing on the issue. I only posted it here because @Trott asked for an update.

[jasnell]

QUIC update: There is no update this week. Work progress on separating bits out that can be separated out.