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# Node Foundation CTC Meeting 2017-08-16
## Links

* **Recording**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtrD_RZa_sg
* **GitHub Issue**: [CTC#162](https://github.com/nodejs/CTC/issues/162)
* **Minutes Google Doc**: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpfHhEyR0dj-9Wua_3m0_ycrsNTCa_fHB1n8krGctnc>
* _Previous Minutes Google Doc: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fwVahOUo7ilQKgXU7343Z18GXyX5M0GwARuguoFYvtE>_
## Present

* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
* Franziska Hinkelmann @fhinkel (CTC)
* Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (CTC)
* Matteo Collina @mcollina (CTC)
* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
* Michaël Zasso @targos (CTC)
* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)

### Observers
* Bradley Meck @bmeck (GoDaddy/TC39)
* Tracy Hinds @hackygolucky (Node.js Foundation Education Community Manager)
* Josh Gavant @joshgav (Microsoft)
* Kaitlyn Barnard @kbarnard10 (Node.js Foundation Newsletter Curator)
* Mark Hinkle @mrhinkle (Node.js Foundation Executive Director)



## Agenda

* announcements
* review previous meeting

### nodejs/node

* promises: more robust stringification [#13784](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/13784)
* stream: remove {writeableState/readableState}.length [#12857](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/12857)
* Cleanup `_writableState` and `_readableState` access across codebase [#445](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445)

### nodejs/vm

* drop --napi-modules earlier than dropping the "experimental" status [#9](https://github.com/nodejs/vm/issues/9)

## Previous Meeting Review

### nodejs/node

* Cleanup `_writableState` and `_readableState` access across codebase [#445](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445)
* Some brief discussion, back on the agenda for the next meeting. Possibly it might go to a vote.

### nodejs/node-eps

* proposal: ES module resolver spec for package.json "module" property [#60](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/60)
* Any actual decision will wait until after `.mjs` functionality works.


## Minutes


* Cleanup `_writableState` and `_readableState` access across codebase [#445](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445)

* Back to GitHub again, but probably coming for a vote some time soon.

* stream: remove {writeableState/readableState}.length [#12857](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/12857)

* Needs more review from CTC members on GitHub.

* promises: more robust stringification [#13784](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/13784)

* Ben to open alternative that allows calling toString() on variable through a binding without executing user supplied toString()

* drop --napi-modules earlier than dropping the "experimental" status [#9](https://github.com/nodejs/vm/issues/9)

* Back to GitHub. Someone (Michael Dawson perhaps?) needs to make the case to address Jeremiah’s question/objection.

## Q&A, Other

* No questions were asked.

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