Custom gearing ranges/ratios #2671

GraVvVel · 2024-10-18T11:10:32Z

GraVvVel
Oct 18, 2024

So far I already love the possibility to basically use Zwift hardware (Cog + Click/Play/Ride) with any training app for virtual shifting on a lot of trainers. However I would propose to add a possibility to add your own gearing ratios in a table. This could look something like this:

Chainring size (tooth count): 40
Rear cog size (tooth count): 14

Number of virtual gears: 13
Ratio gear #1: 0.8
....
Ratio gear #13: 4.5

The first part of the config (your real configration) is done by Zwift automagically when you use a virtual gearing compatible trainer in the first couple of seconds by measuring flywheel speed vs. power - this part would be hard to implement I guess, but it would be no real overhead for the user to enter it manually. The individual virtual gears could alternatively also be specified like this (might be easier for the user):

Gear #1 - Crankset: 40 T Cog: 44 T
Gear #2 - Crankset: 40 T Cog: 36 T
...

Alternatively you could maybe also have a couple of common gearing combos as preset tables (similar to what Zwift has included).

GraVvVel · 2024-10-18T11:19:39Z

GraVvVel
Oct 18, 2024
Author

Also as a follow up: I think there might then be potential for you to just launch the virtual shifting part of your app as a seperate app for Android and iOS with only Smart Trainer support, but very minimal UX and settings - I think there are lot of smart trainer users without official virtual shifting support that could be interested. And this would make it independent of the app!

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cagnulein Oct 18, 2024
Maintainer

yeah I already thought about this and that's why I created the wizard at the startup of the app. Creating another app it's too much for me (i'm doing this like an hobby)

GraVvVel Oct 18, 2024
Author

Yes - I understand. Not sure about the wizard though. Does it always show? I can't really remember going through a wizard...

cagnulein · 2024-10-18T11:50:21Z

cagnulein
Oct 18, 2024
Maintainer

The first part of the config (your real configration) is done by Zwift automagically when you use a virtual gearing compatible trainer in the first couple of seconds by measuring flywheel speed vs. power

hah! I didn't know this! thanks

real overhead for the user to enter it manually. The individual virtual gears could alternatively also be specified like this (might be easier for the user):

Gear #1 - Crankset: 40 T Cog: 44 T Gear #2 - Crankset: 40 T Cog: 36 T

yeah my idea is creating a table with a gear gain prefixed

basically i would i like to create a 4 columns table with:

gear	crankset	cog	gain
1	40t	44t	1
2	40t	36t	1.1

and so on

what do you think? I would like also to add several negative values (or not?)

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cagnulein Oct 18, 2024
Maintainer

That project is applicable only to wahoo, qz inclination offset is instead applicable to all the trainers.

But if you have a custom Idea for wahoo devices I will implement it

GraVvVel Oct 18, 2024
Author

Yes - I understand that adjusting the gradient is fine for a lot of users. For me it would be great to have something closer to "real" virtual gearing so that I can test a certain gear ratio on a certain climb - e.g. before bikepacking up the Stelvio. Then I would test some gearings to get an idea and ride up there in Rouvy (or some other app) 😄

So my complete idea for wahoo devices only:

Add a wahoo specific config setting with the following:
- Crankset size (tooth count)
- Cog size (tooth count)
- Wheel size (here I would add a dropdown e.g. with these values

From these you then know the original ratio e.g. 40t x 14t = 2.86 and whell circumference in mm e.g. 700 x 44C would be 2230

You then add another table (either in the general section for gear ratios or in the wahoo part) that contains the gearing config (basically like your suggestion - only you would not need the for this case or simply ignore it):

Gear	Crankset	Rear Cog
1	40	44
2	40	36
...	...	...
24	40	10

So then you have the individual ratios - e.g. gear 1 = 40/44 = 0.91

Maybe a table with a maximum of 24 gears and if a line is not entered then you ignore it (so you could for example just fill in 12 or 18 gears)

Then when this wahoo specific shifting is activated you calculate the resulting correct circumference. The formula would be (configured_circumference)/ (target_gear_ratio) * (configured_original_ratio)
In the example above for gear 1 it would be 2230/0.91 * 2.86 = 7008.6mm. I hope I got that right...

Instead of changing the grade with an offset you then send the updated circumference to the trainer via the protocol specified here.

This would really be great for wahoo users and maybe there is a similar setting for Elite and Garmin/Tacx so they could be covered too in the future...

Nagusia Oct 30, 2024

So then you have the individual ratios - e.g. gear 1 = 40/44 = 0.91

Maybe a table with a maximum of 24 gears and if a line is not entered then you ignore it (so you could for example just fill in 12 or 18 gears)

Then when this wahoo specific shifting is activated you calculate the resulting correct circumference. The formula would be (configured_circumference)/ (target_gear_ratio) * (configured_original_ratio) In the example above for gear 1 it would be 2230/0.91 * 2.86 = 7008.6mm. I hope I got that right...

Just out of curiosity, this isn't actually right, is it? The wheel circumference should be less than 2230 for a 0.91 ratio, shouldn't it? What is the formula being used in the end?

GraVvVel Oct 30, 2024
Author

Yes the two gear ratios should be inverted - we switched it around to configured_circumference)/ (configured_original_ratio) * (target_gear_ratio)

Nagusia Oct 30, 2024

Ah! This actually kept me awake for a while last night. I couldn't work it out in my head!

cagnulein · 2024-10-18T19:09:22Z

cagnulein
Oct 18, 2024
Maintainer

Good ideas! I will try to implement this asap I guess we can go by steps, starting with sending the wheel setup and then adding the table Il giorno ven 18 ott 2024 alle 20:52 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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Yes - I understand that adjusting the gradient is fine for a lot of users. For me it would be great to have something closer to "real" virtual gearing so that I can test a certain gear ratio on a certain climb - e.g. before bikepacking up the Stelvio. Then I would test some gearings to get an idea and ride up there in Rouvy (or some other app) 😄 So my complete idea for wahoo devices only: - Add a wahoo specific config setting with the following: - Crankset size (tooth count) - Cog size (tooth count) - Wheel size (here I would add a dropdown e.g. with these values <https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000738484-Tire-Size-Wheel-Circumference-Chart> From these you then know the original ratio e.g. 40t x 14t = 2.86 and whell circumference in mm e.g. 700 x 44C would be 2230 You then add another table (either in the general section for gear ratios or in the wahoo part) that contains the gearing config (basically like your suggestion - only you would not need the for this case or simply ignore it): Gear Crankset Rear Cog 1 40 44 2 40 36 ... ... ... 24 40 10 So then you have the individual ratios - e.g. gear 1 = 40/44 = 0.91 Maybe a table with a maximum of 24 gears and if a line is not entered then you ignore it (so you could for example just fill in 12 or 18 gears) Then when this wahoo specific shifting is activated you calculate the resulting correct circumference. The formula would be (configured_circumference)/ (target_gear_ratio) * (configured_original_ratio) - in the example above for gear 1 it would be 2230/0.91 * 2.86 = 7008.6mm. I hope I got that right... Instead of changing the grade with an offset you then send the updated circumference to the trainer via the protocol specified here <https://github.com/jvivenot/KickrShiftr?tab=readme-ov-file#protocol-used> . This would really be great for wahoo users! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2671 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAALYWBTIHF6E3WCU6JYJ7DZ4FKFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTAOJYG4YDIMY> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

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GraVvVel · 2024-10-18T19:33:02Z

GraVvVel
Oct 18, 2024
Author

That‘s great!! Going by steps sounds good and I’d be happy to test - maybe then on Windows instead of iOS if that is easier to package and distribute Roberto Viola ***@***.***> schrieb am Fr. 18. Okt. 2024 um 21:09:

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Good ideas! I will try to implement this asap I guess we can go by steps, starting with sending the wheel setup and then adding the table Il giorno ven 18 ott 2024 alle 20:52 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto: > Yes - I understand that adjusting the gradient is fine for a lot of users. > For me it would be great to have something closer to "real" virtual gearing > so that I can test a certain gear ratio on a certain climb - e.g. before > bikepacking up the Stelvio. Then I would test some gearings to get an idea > and ride up there in Rouvy (or some other app) 😄 > > So my complete idea for wahoo devices only: > > - Add a wahoo specific config setting with the following: > - Crankset size (tooth count) > - Cog size (tooth count) > - Wheel size (here I would add a dropdown e.g. with these values > < https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000738484-Tire-Size-Wheel-Circumference-Chart> > > From these you then know the original ratio e.g. 40t x 14t = 2.86 and > whell circumference in mm e.g. 700 x 44C would be 2230 > > You then add another table (either in the general section for gear ratios > or in the wahoo part) that contains the gearing config (basically like your > suggestion - only you would not need the for this case or simply ignore it): > Gear Crankset Rear Cog > 1 40 44 > 2 40 36 > ... ... ... > 24 40 10 > > So then you have the individual ratios - e.g. gear 1 = 40/44 = 0.91 > > Maybe a table with a maximum of 24 gears and if a line is not entered then > you ignore it (so you could for example just fill in 12 or 18 gears) > > Then when this wahoo specific shifting is activated you calculate the > resulting correct circumference. The formula would be > (configured_circumference)/ (target_gear_ratio) * > (configured_original_ratio) - in the example above for gear 1 it would be > 2230/0.91 * 2.86 = 7008.6mm. I hope I got that right... > > Instead of changing the grade with an offset you then send the updated > circumference to the trainer via the protocol specified here > < https://github.com/jvivenot/KickrShiftr?tab=readme-ov-file#protocol-used> > . > > This would really be great for wahoo users! > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #2671 (reply in thread)>, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAALYWBTIHF6E3WCU6JYJ7DZ4FKFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTAOJYG4YDIMY> > . > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.*** > com> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2671 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BC4MW7VN6UJ3YIH6BJ7ONQ3Z4FMHPAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTAOJYG4YTMNA> . You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

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cagnulein · 2024-10-18T19:35:09Z

cagnulein
Oct 18, 2024
Maintainer

Yes sure I was trying to suggest the same thing Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno ven 18 ott 2024 alle 21:33 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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That‘s great!! Going by steps sounds good and I’d be happy to test - maybe then on Windows instead of iOS if that is easier to package and distribute Roberto Viola ***@***.***> schrieb am Fr. 18. Okt. 2024 um 21:09: > Good ideas! > I will try to implement this asap > I guess we can go by steps, starting with sending the wheel setup and then > adding the table > > Il giorno ven 18 ott 2024 alle 20:52 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha > scritto: > > > Yes - I understand that adjusting the gradient is fine for a lot of > users. > > For me it would be great to have something closer to "real" virtual > gearing > > so that I can test a certain gear ratio on a certain climb - e.g. before > > bikepacking up the Stelvio. Then I would test some gearings to get an > idea > > and ride up there in Rouvy (or some other app) 😄 > > > > So my complete idea for wahoo devices only: > > > > - Add a wahoo specific config setting with the following: > > - Crankset size (tooth count) > > - Cog size (tooth count) > > - Wheel size (here I would add a dropdown e.g. with these values > > < > https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000738484-Tire-Size-Wheel-Circumference-Chart> > > > > > From these you then know the original ratio e.g. 40t x 14t = 2.86 and > > whell circumference in mm e.g. 700 x 44C would be 2230 > > > > You then add another table (either in the general section for gear > ratios > > or in the wahoo part) that contains the gearing config (basically like > your > > suggestion - only you would not need the for this case or simply ignore > it): > > Gear Crankset Rear Cog > > 1 40 44 > > 2 40 36 > > ... ... ... > > 24 40 10 > > > > So then you have the individual ratios - e.g. gear 1 = 40/44 = 0.91 > > > > Maybe a table with a maximum of 24 gears and if a line is not entered > then > > you ignore it (so you could for example just fill in 12 or 18 gears) > > > > Then when this wahoo specific shifting is activated you calculate the > > resulting correct circumference. The formula would be > > (configured_circumference)/ (target_gear_ratio) * > > (configured_original_ratio) - in the example above for gear 1 it would > be > > 2230/0.91 * 2.86 = 7008.6mm. I hope I got that right... > > > > Instead of changing the grade with an offset you then send the updated > > circumference to the trainer via the protocol specified here > > < > https://github.com/jvivenot/KickrShiftr?tab=readme-ov-file#protocol-used> > > . > > > > This would really be great for wahoo users! > > > > — > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > < > #2671 (reply in thread)>, > > > or unsubscribe > > < > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAALYWBTIHF6E3WCU6JYJ7DZ4FKFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTAOJYG4YDIMY> > > > . > > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > > ***@***.*** > > com> > > > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #2671 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BC4MW7VN6UJ3YIH6BJ7ONQ3Z4FMHPAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTAOJYG4YTMNA> > . > You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: > ***@***.*** > com> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2671 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAALYWAAW6JVKZ3HFV3QE33Z4FPAHAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTAOJYG4ZTCNA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

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cagnulein · 2024-10-21T11:36:09Z

cagnulein
Oct 21, 2024
Maintainer

@GraVvVel in order to test first your idea i would like to create a static table with your values. If it works, i will create the UI around it.
So i need the static values for your case

Crankset size (tooth count)
Cog size (tooth count)
Wheel size

Gear	Crankset	Rear Cog
1	40	44
2	40	36
...	...	...
24	40	10

Let me know and I will implement it asap!

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GraVvVel Oct 21, 2024
Author

Sounds good and no problem.

My values would be (I would just configure my bikepacking configuration):

Crankset: 40
Rear cog size: 14
Wheel size: 700x44 (= 2230mm)

Gear	Crankset	Rear Cog
1	38	44
2	38	38
3	38	32
4	38	28
5	38	24
6	38	21
7	38	19
8	38	17
9	38	15
10	38	13
11	38	11
12	38	10

This would simulate a 1x12 Force AXS XPLR Setup and would be great for a first test. I could also create a sequential table for a 2x12 setup with a common gearing combination later today (i.e. only with the really used gears in sequential order).

cagnulein · 2024-10-21T11:48:44Z

cagnulein
Oct 21, 2024
Maintainer

perfect! let me arrange this! Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno lun 21 ott 2024 alle ore 13:47 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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Sounds good and no problem. My values would be (I would just configure my bikepacking configuration): - Crankset: 40 - Rear cog size: 14 - Wheel size: 700x44 (= 2230mm) Gear Crankset Rear Cog 1 38 44 2 38 38 3 38 32 4 38 28 5 38 24 6 38 21 7 38 19 8 38 17 9 38 15 10 38 13 11 38 11 12 38 10 This would simulate a 1x12 Force AXS XPLR Setup and would be great for a first test. I could also create a sequential table for a 2x12 setup with a common gearing combination later today (i.e. only with the really used gears in sequential order). — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2671 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAALYWBJREPKDJP7LDIQF7TZ4TSW3AVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTCMBQGQ2TKNA> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

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cagnulein · 2024-10-21T12:08:09Z

cagnulein
Oct 21, 2024
Maintainer

@GraVvVel done!

https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/11439744108

you will see there the windows build in an hour
use it with zwift or rouvy or whatever app and post me a debug log in any case, of course i didn't tried anything since i don't have your trainer

let me know!

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cagnulein Oct 21, 2024
Maintainer

use the msvc no python build at the bottom

GraVvVel · 2024-10-21T12:18:00Z

GraVvVel
Oct 21, 2024
Author

Excellent - I’ll give it a spin later today. Roberto Viola ***@***.***> schrieb am Mo. 21. Okt. 2024 um 14:08:

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GraVvVel · 2024-10-21T12:57:32Z

GraVvVel
Oct 21, 2024
Author

I have not tested yet, but just for the record this would be an alternative table for a future test with a 2x12 gearing setup (46/33 x 10-36). I tried to choose the best switchover point from 33 to 46 so that the gears are sequential:

Gear	Crankset	Cog size
1	33	36
2	33	32
3	33	28
4	33	24
5	33	21
6	33	19
7	33	17
8	46	21
9	46	19
10	46	17
11	46	15
12	46	13
13	46	12
14	46	11
15	46	10

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GraVvVel · 2024-10-21T13:15:52Z

GraVvVel
Oct 21, 2024
Author

I installed it and it starts up and connects to my Wahoo, but my bluetooth mouse stops working and I don't have a usb mouse lying around, so it's hard to configure and test. Any ideas?

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cagnulein Oct 21, 2024
Maintainer

it shouldn't be releated :) i mean qz doesn't have the ability to stop the mouse :D did you try to reboot the pc? don't you have by chance also an android device? maybe it's easier?

GraVvVel Oct 21, 2024
Author

Unfortunately I don't have an android device anymore

GraVvVel · 2024-10-21T14:59:33Z

GraVvVel
Oct 21, 2024
Author

I can actually reproduce the error: As soon as qz connects to my Kickr the Mouse stops working - if I unplug the Kickr qz crashes and my mouse starts working again. I guess you would like to see the debug log, but where can I find it?

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cagnulein Oct 22, 2024
Maintainer

in this log qz was still trying to connect to the trainer. so i suggest to wait a couple of minutes

cagnulein Oct 22, 2024
Maintainer

for sure on win11 there is some ghots to fix, but i don't have a windows 11 machine to play around

GraVvVel Oct 22, 2024
Author

Ok - what about this one:
debug-Di_Okt_22_15_21_24_2024.log

cagnulein Oct 22, 2024
Maintainer

ok there is for sure a windows 11 incompatibility on your end. So let me know how you would proceed:

wait for your windows 10 VM
create a custom iOS version

Let me know

GraVvVel Oct 22, 2024
Author

Well if a custom iOS version is possible then I would go for that as it worked perfectly before. Not really confident we get bluetooth and networking topics sorted with win 10 VM and it's not that straightforward to set up.

cagnulein · 2024-10-22T13:34:29Z

cagnulein
Oct 22, 2024
Maintainer

Ok I will build it up Send me an email to Roberto.viola83 at Gmail.com so I will send you the beta as soon it's ready Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno mar 22 ott 2024 alle 15:33 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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GraVvVel Oct 22, 2024
Author

Ok - I've received an installed it. It connects fine and it does shift gears, but I'm not 100% sure how the settings should be configured:

Should Zwift gearing be active?
Do I need to configure something else (gain or anything)?

I tried both with Zwift gearing on and off - in general gear 1 seemed to be the hardest (contrary to the gearing table above) and on a slight incline of about 3,5% for it to be rideable I was at gear 24 with Zwift gearing on and 36 without Zwift gearing... I tried to turn on the logs, but I'm not sure where they are saved

cagnulein Oct 22, 2024
Maintainer

Ok - I've received an installed it. It connects fine and it does shift gears

wow this is already an achievement!

Should Zwift gearing be active?

nope, at least not for now

Do I need to configure something else (gain or anything)?

nope i hard coded them

I tried both with Zwift gearing on and off - in general gear 1 seemed to be the hardest (contrary to the gearing table above) and on a slight incline of about 3,5% for it to be rideable I was at gear 24 with Zwift gearing on and 36 without Zwift gearing... I tried to turn on the logs, but I'm not sure where they are saved

ok i need for sure a debug log to understand it. debug log are in the files app, qdomyoszwift folder on the root of your phone.
Let me know!

GraVvVel Oct 22, 2024
Author

Here you go:
debug-Di__Okt__22_16_50_52_2024.log

GraVvVel Oct 22, 2024
Author

Here is another one
debug-Di__Okt__22_17_50_53_2024.log

cagnulein · 2024-10-22T15:32:57Z

cagnulein
Oct 22, 2024
Maintainer

in this log i see only a gear changed, do you have one where you are doing as you explained? Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno mar 22 ott 2024 alle ore 17:12 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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cagnulein · 2024-10-22T16:10:05Z

cagnulein
Oct 22, 2024
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Thanks I will check it tomorrow! Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno mar 22 ott 2024 alle 17:55 GraVvVel ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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Nagusia · 2024-10-29T15:41:37Z

Nagusia
Oct 29, 2024

@cagnulein Yes, this works! I just did a short test but first impressions are that I prefer it to the gradient system. I will give it a longer test tomorrow but you and @GraVvVel have done a great job.
Just as an aside, I notice Headwind goes crazy blowing air like I'm speeding along, which is another plus.

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Nagusia · 2024-10-29T16:22:07Z

Nagusia
Oct 29, 2024

Here is the debug log. For some reason I can't upload it from my phone directly.
debug-Tue_Oct_29_16_14_45_2024.log

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cagnulein Oct 29, 2024
Maintainer

Here is the debug log. For some reason I can't upload it from my phone directly.

debug-Tue_Oct_29_16_14_45_2024.log

Should I check anything on this or it's just for logging? Thanks

Nagusia Oct 29, 2024

Should I check anything on this or it's just for logging? Thanks

Just for logging.

GraVvVel · 2024-10-30T13:40:25Z

GraVvVel
Oct 30, 2024
Author

@cagnulein Now that it seems to be mostly working for Wahoo devices you could look into further ones (Elite?) or even FTMS 😄. At least according to this post it should work via FTMS for Elite trainers. This could really spread virtual shifting capabilities independently of the virtual training app - great potential I would say!

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alexbee732 Oct 31, 2024

@alexbee732 if you have windown 10 or older you can use the windows build https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/11595867082/artifacts/2123744387

Let me know

Tried this build. Selected my trainer in ftms devices, can see tiles but information does't update on the tiles. Also zwift (on other pc) doesn't see qz device.

Collected some logs (run as admin, win11 pro)
debug-Thu_Oct_31_20_43_24_2024.log
debug-Thu_Oct_31_20_39_35_2024.log
debug-Thu_Oct_31_20_25_03_2024.log
debug-Thu_Oct_31_20_36_13_2024.log

cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
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@alexbee732 The problem is windows 11. Don't you have a windows 10 pc?

alexbee732 Oct 31, 2024

@alexbee732 The problem is windows 11. Don't you have a windows 10 pc?

Installed win10. Connected to bike ok. Made a few attempts:

Connected all to zwift, started ride, but gears were not changing in app when I change in game (bike was extra heavy to spin)
After restarting app I don't see qz bt device in zwift any more (but bike is not so heavy to spin)
Made test ride without zwift, clicking gears in app myself 1 -> 12 -> 1,no effect, easy to spin
debug-Thu_Oct_31_23_04_50_2024.zip

Upd: read logs and code a bit, left comment in pr #2715 (comment)

cagnulein Nov 1, 2024
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@alexbee732 The problem is that the trainer is answering me back with "unsupported", I guess that there are only few manufacturers that implemented wheel diamater changing by ftms unfortunately. Thanks for trying!

alexbee732 Nov 1, 2024

@cagnulein No problem. I'm in contact with the manufactorer. They are going to introduce something like zwift click button for their trainers very soon. I think it means that they will eventually support wheel diamater changing by ftms or some other parameter. I will buy it and make some reverce engineering when it become available. And come back to you)

You can calibrate for your trainer with the gear gain setting in the bike settings.

For now please keep this feature for such ftms bikes.

cagnulein · 2024-10-30T17:37:24Z

cagnulein
Oct 30, 2024
Maintainer

Hah Ok so it could be releated to #2541 (comment) same issue on rouvy Could you post a debug log from mywhoosh so I compare them? Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno mer 30 ott 2024 alle 18:19 satchafunkilus < ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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Nagusia · 2024-10-31T08:37:43Z

Nagusia
Oct 31, 2024

@cagnulein @GraVvVel Did the Mayan 8 route (lots of variety in terms of uphill and downhill) on Zwift yesterday and the gear shifting works very well. Sometimes it feels as if the trainer, Wahoo Kickr v4 (Not Core BTW), takes a bit of time to make the changes, but not more than a second. It makes me wonder what the official Zwift virtual shifting system feels like.
Just one thing to report. There is a a gear missing in the Reality Bender preset. In the table made by @GraVvVel up above gear number 17 is missing. In the preset the highest gear is 23. I just added another gear but I guess it's something that can easily be fixed.

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cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
Maintainer

in case could you please fill this template with the right numbers just to be sure

"Reality Bender": {
            name: "Reality Bender (24 even spaced)",
            gears: [
                { gear: 1, crankset: 30, cog: 40, active: true },
                { gear: 2, crankset: 30, cog: 36, active: true },
                { gear: 3, crankset: 30, cog: 33, active: true },
                { gear: 4, crankset: 30, cog: 30, active: true },
                { gear: 5, crankset: 30, cog: 27, active: true },
                { gear: 6, crankset: 34, cog: 28, active: true },
                { gear: 7, crankset: 34, cog: 26, active: true },
                { gear: 8, crankset: 34, cog: 24, active: true },
                { gear: 9, crankset: 34, cog: 22, active: true },
                { gear: 10, crankset: 44, cog: 26, active: true },
                { gear: 11, crankset: 44, cog: 24, active: true },
                { gear: 12, crankset: 44, cog: 22, active: true },
                { gear: 13, crankset: 44, cog: 20, active: true },
                { gear: 14, crankset: 44, cog: 18, active: true },
                { gear: 15, crankset: 56, cog: 21, active: true },
                { gear: 16, crankset: 56, cog: 19, active: true },
                { gear: 17, crankset: 58, cog: 18, active: true },
                { gear: 18, crankset: 60, cog: 17, active: true },
                { gear: 19, crankset: 62, cog: 16, active: true },
                { gear: 20, crankset: 63, cog: 15, active: true },
                { gear: 21, crankset: 64, cog: 14, active: true },
                { gear: 22, crankset: 66, cog: 13, active: true },
                { gear: 23, crankset: 67, cog: 12, active: true },
                { gear: 24, crankset: 67, cog: 11, active: true }
            ]
        },

GraVvVel Oct 31, 2024
Author

"Reality Bender": {
            name: "Reality Bender (24 even spaced)",
            gears: [
                { gear: 1, crankset: 75, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 2, crankset: 87, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 3, crankset: 99, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 4, crankset: 111, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 5, crankset: 123, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 6, crankset: 138, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 7, crankset: 153, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 8, crankset: 168, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 9, crankset: 186, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 10, crankset: 204, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 11, crankset: 222, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 12, crankset: 240, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 13, crankset: 261, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 14, crankset: 282, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 15, crankset: 303, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 16, crankset: 324, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 17, crankset: 349, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 18, crankset: 374, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 19, crankset: 399, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 20, crankset: 424, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 21, crankset: 454, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 22, crankset: 484, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 23, crankset: 514, cog: 100, active: true },
                { gear: 24, crankset: 549, cog: 100, active: true }
            ]
        },

cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
Maintainer

done!

Nagusia Oct 31, 2024

That's a very clever solution. I look forward to trying it out.

cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
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@Nagusia https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/11615346522

RainerSaemann · 2024-10-31T08:45:56Z

RainerSaemann
Oct 31, 2024

Also did a short test right now, since I missed yesterday to disable the ftms bike option. This was done now!

Although I choose the profile "Explorer" in the Wahoo option, I'm able to shift to gears greater than 13. See debug log. Is this intendet or should this be limited to the confguration table (13 gears configured, only possible to shift until gear 13 or at least limit the resistance for gear greater than 13 to this value?

debug-Do__Okt__31_09_35_06_2024.log

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RainerSaemann Oct 31, 2024

thanks @RainerSaemann this log is perfect! and I also understood the issue: I didn't handle the gears when qz is running on standalone mode (are you using in this way now, right?). If so i'm building a patch! Let me know!

correct, I was using QZ standalone for the test (was to lazy to start all the other stuff), but this wouldn't be my use-case.

I tried it right now with myWhoosh connected, but same behavior. Gears didn't show any resistance differences (1-13 for explorer profile). So I choose a different profile and here is the same (1-23) same resistance.

debug-Do__Okt__31_12_39_36_2024_explorer.log

debug-Do__Okt__31_12_44_21_2024_reality_bender.log

cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
Maintainer

got the issue, it was a specific problem of the KICKR CORE. I'm fixing now and I will send you a new one!

cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
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@RainerSaemann sent!

RainerSaemann Oct 31, 2024

@RainerSaemann sent!

Great job Roberto - working great now also for me and Wahoo KICKR CORE

cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
Maintainer

amazing cooperation @RainerSaemann !

cagnulein · 2024-10-31T15:44:12Z

cagnulein
Oct 31, 2024
Maintainer

@GraVvVel just added the possibility to specify a specific gear level at startup in the bike options.

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cagnulein Nov 2, 2024
Maintainer

@Nagusia fixed! Thank you for the feedback

https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/11640242097

Nagusia Nov 2, 2024

@cagnulein Thanks. That's fixed but I found another small bug. When you save a profile it saves just a 0 bytes file with this new version. This one caught me out!

cagnulein Nov 2, 2024
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@Nagusia that's strange! Could you please try to delete the qz folder and try again? I guess it's because the folder was owned from the play store qz version

Nagusia Nov 2, 2024

Ha! Yes, that was it. Thanks.

cagnulein Nov 2, 2024
Maintainer

Perfect!

Lanmarcin · 2024-10-31T18:32:44Z

Lanmarcin
Oct 31, 2024

@cagnulein I respond to this message #2541 (comment)
I tried the version you sent. I fell no difference in resistance when changing gears.

debug-Thu_Oct_31_19_26_34_2024.log

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cagnulein Oct 31, 2024
Maintainer

Thanks @Lanmarcin i will check it but it seems that zwift hub doesn't support it

RainerSaemann · 2024-11-02T17:41:52Z

RainerSaemann
Nov 2, 2024

@cagnulein : Today a made a longer ride with the customized "Rolling Hills" Wahoo profile together with MyWhoosh and all I can say is everything is really perfect and matches my use-cases (Zift-Ride Bike / Cog and myWhoosh) for 100%. I'll try soon also Rouvy - didn't expect any differences in regards to QZ only to try out that App for some time. Thanks a lot Roberto - really enjoy yout effort and support!!
Do you plan to release this build version?

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cagnulein Nov 2, 2024
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Wow that's great @RainerSaemann
Yes I would like to put in production soon but first I would like to improve the wizard

cagnulein · 2024-11-02T20:26:55Z

cagnulein
Nov 2, 2024
Maintainer

Not I was waiting you

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satchafunkilus Nov 2, 2024

Ah ok, I gave it a thumbs up, so from my side let‘s change it 👌

cagnulein Nov 2, 2024
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Sorry didn't receive a notification for this :)

I will do this next week

Nagusia · 2024-11-04T13:04:23Z

Nagusia
Nov 4, 2024

@cagnulein The new gear changing system for works brilliantly but I have a doubt about what happens with the wheel circumference setting when I change into ERG mode. Let's say I start a session on GZ and then I connect to Zwift. (My gear setting always seems to go to 1 even though in bike settings I have put 10 as startup gear.) So I guess the wheel size for gear 1 gets sent to the Wahoo Kickr. Then I choose to do a workout in ERG mode, so the gears are no longer working (or are they?)
So if the trainer sets the resistance necessary for the target watts, does the wheel size go back to the default in the Wahoo app set up?
Or if it doesn't, does the custom wheel size, set by GZ, not have any role to play in ERG mode calculations?
Also, does the ERG mode setting in GZ need to be enabled when you are using a Wahoo trainer?

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cagnulein Nov 4, 2024
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So I guess the wheel size for gear 1 gets sent to the Wahoo Kickr. Then I choose to do a workout in ERG mode, so the gears are no longer working (or are they?)

in this scenario i guess the trainer is trying to keep the wattage, no matter about the wheel circumference.

So if the trainer sets the resistance necessary for the target watts, does the wheel size go back to the default in the Wahoo app set up?

could be

Or if it doesn't, does the custom wheel size, set by GZ, not have any role to play in ERG mode calculations?

i guess this is the probably scenario

Also, does the ERG mode setting in GZ need to be enabled when you are using a Wahoo trainer?

yes so qz will send also ERG requests to the trainer.

GraVvVel Nov 4, 2024
Author

From my understanding wheel circumference should not have any impact in ERG mode (except maybe causing your Wahoo Headwind to go quicker/slower when set to speed), but an interesting scenario could be if you are using QZ intermittently - so say you used it with myWhoosh and stopped in gear 1 and then use Zwift (or Rouvy), but paired directly with your Kickr, then that might cause you to have much too easy gearing in Sim Mode. Maybe to prevent this you could always set the configured standard circumference when stopping QZ (but this would not apply when simply terminating the app).

Nagusia Nov 4, 2024

I am going to do some tests. I seem to remember with the gradient-based previous version of GZ I used ERG mode in Zwift without enabling it in GZ and it was fine. But anyway, now we are messing with different variables there might be some unintended consequences!

Nagusia Nov 4, 2024

So, ERG mode in Zwift works with or without enabling ERG mode in GZ. In neither case does changing gear have any effect. However, if you finish the workout and go into SIM mode, if ERG mode is enabled in GZ you are stuck there. If you haven't enabled it, you can go into SIM mode and the gears start working, although things take a while to 'settle down'. At the beginning I was in gear 15, the top gear, and spinning far to easily. This seemed to correct itself when I started checking settings in GZ without actually changing anything.
Anyway, there are really no issues here - I'm just curious.

Nagusia Nov 5, 2024

Did another test today with a workout on Zwift in ERG mode and without ERG enabled in GZ. This worked fine and the gears had no effect. The last part of the workout was at 145 watts. When the workout was complete Zwift went into to mode but GZ apparently carried on in ERG mode with a constant 145 watts. The only way to get back to normal was to close and restart GZ and re-pair in Zwift, after which the gears worked again.

cagnulein · 2024-11-05T20:08:45Z

cagnulein
Nov 5, 2024
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Yes because zwift doesn't send a "finish command" as far as I know. Do you have the debug log? Roberto Viola Software engineer and open source enthusiast http://robertoviola.cloud Il giorno mar 5 nov 2024 alle 20:44 Nagusia ***@***.***> ha scritto:

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Did another test today with a workout on Zwift in ERG mode and without ERG enabled in GZ. This worked fine and the gears had no effect. The last part of the workout was at 145 watts. When the workout was complete Zwift went into to mode but GZ apparently carried on in ERG mode with a constant 145 watts. The only way to get back to normal was to close and restart GZ and re-pair in Zwift, after which the gears worked again. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2671 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAALYWE5X3SMNQDOJRKPEXLZ7ENZZAVCNFSM6AAAAABQFW3SYCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43URDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHMYTCMJVHA4DENY> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.*** com>

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Nagusia Nov 6, 2024

Hi, I have 2 debug logs for you. The first one, I started GZ up, the paired it with Zwift, and then selected a workout. This worked as expected in ERG mode with the gears not responding, but then I skipped blocks to the end to finish the workout, clicked on 'continue' to go back to Freeride mode, and the gears would still not work.
debug-Wed_Nov_6_13_16_39_2024.log
Then I restarted GZ, paired up in a new session in Zwift, started a route in Freeride mode with the gears working as expected, then chose a workout which put me into ERG mode so the gears stopped working, and then as before, ended the workout to continue in Freeride mode, but the gears did not start working.
debug-Wed_Nov_6_13_23_12_2024.log
So it seems you can go into ERG mode without problems, but you can't go back to SIM mode with the gears working. Not something you often want to do but there are scenarios I can imagine where you might want to.

cagnulein Nov 6, 2024
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@Nagusia i tried to do a patch for this scenario https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/11704091575

Let me know!

Nagusia Nov 6, 2024

@cagnulein Yes, the patch seems to work. I came out of the ERG mode and it went into SIM mode and I could use the gears.
debug-Wed_Nov_6_15_52_39_2024.log
Re your version with the improved gear change time, is that in this build with the patch? In any case, I cannot imagine I'm going to notice much difference between 200ms and anything quicker. Isn't any lag down to the trainer?

cagnulein Nov 6, 2024
Maintainer

@cagnulein Yes, the patch seems to work. I came out of the ERG mode and it went into SIM mode and I could use the gears. [debug-Wed_Nov_6_15_52_39_2024.log](https://github.com/user-attachments/files/17648975/debug-

That's great @Nagusia

Wed_Nov_6_15_52_39_2024.log) Re your version with the improved gear change time, is that in this build with the patch? In any case, I cannot imagine I'm going to notice much difference between 200ms and anything quicker. Isn't any lag down to the trainer?

yes it's already here, the lag improvement is most of when you change gears quickly, but i guess it was more an iOS thing rather than an android one

cagnulein · 2024-11-06T08:34:08Z

cagnulein
Nov 6, 2024
Maintainer

guys i guess i Increased the speed of the gear changing for the wahoo devices. if you want I can send you the ios build (send me an email about this) or the android build is here https://github.com/cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift/actions/runs/11699893676

you can also now improve it more changing the 200ms default value in the Pool time (ms) setting under the treadmill options, domyos one (yes i have to change the position, but for the moment, let's change this value). for example set it to 50 if you want to improve it even more!

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Nagusia Nov 7, 2024

Yes, it works now. :-)

cagnulein Nov 7, 2024
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Glad to hear it! Tomorrow I will build the ios one!

GraVvVel Nov 8, 2024
Author

Feedback to the iOS one: Preferred gear is loaded - it's just always one more than configured (e.g. 9 -> 10) - maybe some array index thing? Apart from that: Gear shifting in myWhoosh and Rouvy super quick and consistent - downhills in myWhoosh seem like there is a bit too much resistance, but that could just be because of myWhoosh (I never paid much attention to it before)

cagnulein Nov 8, 2024
Maintainer

Thanks @GraVvVel did you check the value on the setting of the gear default, because the error was there. I guess there is now the wrong value there. Let me know !

GraVvVel Nov 8, 2024
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Ahh - good point. I can confirm it's fully fixed!

satchafunkilus · 2024-11-08T07:11:53Z

satchafunkilus
Nov 8, 2024

Just had some really weird behaviour in mywhoosh with ios build 928. Gear changes would have no effects or completely random - I couldn’t really figure out what was going on. And even stranger: When I stayed in the same gear, pedaling got harder, the stronger the downhill, and lighter, the stronger the uphill.
debug-Fr__Nov__8_07_56_15_2024.log

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cagnulein Nov 9, 2024
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@satchafunkilus wait don't use it yet, i'm sending you another one. there was a bug

satchafunkilus Nov 10, 2024

I received releases 931 and 933. Is 933 the correct one?

cagnulein Nov 10, 2024
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Yes 933

satchafunkilus Nov 10, 2024

Did a quick test on 933 and it seemed to work quite well. 👌
I checked if there is a way to factory reset the KICKR, but did not find any. There is just a „factory spindown“ for v5 and newer.

debug-So__Nov__10_23_09_08_2024.log

cagnulein Nov 11, 2024
Maintainer

Amazing @satchafunkilus thanks for the feedback!

costa-alex · 2024-11-14T16:28:35Z

costa-alex
Nov 14, 2024

This morning I tried the build 941 on iOS and selected the Rolling Hills gear profile but I don't understand how does this work.
I have a Zwift Ride and an Elite Suito and using the Zwift Play controllers and I was using TrainingPeaks Virtual. I can change gears (I can see the gears tile on the iPhone changing up and down but it appears that there are no limits, it changes from any negative value to positive values, in steps of 1).

I feel some resistance changes when the gradient changes but considering that the Rolling Hills profile has 15 gears, I was expecting to be able to change gears only between 1 and 15 being 1 the easiest and 15 the hardest.

What I'm I missing?
Thanks

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cagnulein Nov 14, 2024
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@costa-alex is the elite suito compatible with zwift virtual gearing by design? or it's an old one?

costa-alex Nov 14, 2024

No, not compatible.

I am waiting for the delivery of a Jetblack Victory to ditch the Suito, so in the meantime your app helps with the gearing.

cagnulein Nov 14, 2024
Maintainer

ok @costa-alex so with the gear gain you should be able to achieve virtual gearing (like acting on more or less incline sent to the trainer)

Nagusia Nov 15, 2024

@cagnulein You were looking for someone with a Jetblack Victory who could help with the integration of virtual shifting via Wifi (to solve a problem of limited BT connections on ATV which some of us have). There was a guy on Reddit a few days ago who got back to you. Don't know if he has helped you but when @alexbee732 gets his, that could be another option. Just saying ;-)

cagnulein Nov 15, 2024
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Nope he didn't at the end :(

Custom gearing ranges/ratios #2671

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