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… but count all store size

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The logic makes sense to me, I'm just not sure if we should implement it as a new split policy, or if this more of a bug in IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy.

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* @return true if sum of store's size exceed the sizeToCheck
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@Override
protected boolean isExceedSize(int tableRegionsCount, long sizeToCheck) {
long sumSize = 0;
for (HStore store : region.getStores()) {
sumSize += store.getSize();
}
if (sumSize > sizeToCheck) {
LOG.debug("ShouldSplit because region size is big enough " +
" size=" + StringUtils.humanSize(sumSize) +
", sizeToCheck=" + StringUtils.humanSize(sizeToCheck) +
", regionsWithCommonTable=" + tableRegionsCount);
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I wonder if this is how IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy should actually behave. For scenarios where IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy.getSizeToCheck() returns hbase.hregion.max.filesize , it doesn't make much sense to me to check on individual stores only, as regions with many stores may then grow much larger then hbase.hregion.max.filesize.

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It seems make sense when write to each store not evenly, but the parameter name exactly confused.
Maybe we should introduce a new parameter hbase.region.max.size for this new policy and rename the hbase.hregion.max.filesize to hbase.region.store.max.size for the exist policies in follow-on issue. WDYT?
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Thought it agian, split by store size cause the actual region split size uncontrollable and easy to misunderstand, as hbase do more and more better on many columnfamilies, the disadvantages will more and more obvious, so i think we should change the default behavior to split by all reigon size.
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@wchevreuil Maybe we'd better to introduce this new split policy as optional first, and make it as default in future if it works well?

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Thought it agian, split by store size cause the actual region split size uncontrollable and easy to misunderstand, as hbase do more and more better on many columnfamilies, the disadvantages will more and more obvious, so i think we should change the default behavior to split by all reigon size.

That's my concern. It may cause regions to grow much beyond the desired hbase.hregion.max.filesize.

Maybe we'd better to introduce this new split policy as optional first, and make it as default in future if it works well?

Yes, and maybe we should raise a discussion on dev list about making _ IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy_ deprecated?

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Yes, and maybe we should raise a discussion on dev list about making _ IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy_ deprecated?

Agree. Could you raise it? Thanks.

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Sure, will send it later.

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@wchevreuil You are fine with the PR getting merged before raising the discussion over dev group? Or good to wait for the discussion?

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bsglz commented Jun 17, 2020

@wchevreuil Could you help to merge it if you have time, thanks.

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Suggested minor change, else looks good

LOG.debug("ShouldSplit because region size is big enough " +
" size=" + StringUtils.humanSize(sumSize) +
", sizeToCheck=" + StringUtils.humanSize(sizeToCheck) +
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Can you use placeholders with {} for all arguments?

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Fixed, thanks.

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bsglz commented Jun 19, 2020

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I have raised a discussion here: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r08a8103e2532eb667a0fcb4efa8a4117b3f82e6251bc4bd0bc157c26%40%3Cdev.hbase.apache.org%3E

Let's wait for folks comments before we decide next steps for this PR.

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bsglz commented Jun 19, 2020

Ok, thanks.

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bsglz commented Jun 19, 2020

@wchevreuil For now the default split policy is SteppingSplitPolicy, FYI.

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bsglz commented Jun 23, 2020

@wchevreuil @virajjasani Skimed the comments of the thread, seems the #3 is mostly supported, should we continue discussion or do as #3?

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bsglz commented Jun 23, 2020

BTW, ConstantSizeRegionSplitPolicy has the same problem, FYI.

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@bsglz , sorry for the delay. Let's give one more day for the DISCUSS thread.

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bsglz commented Jun 23, 2020

@bsglz , sorry for the delay. Let's give one more day for the DISCUSS thread.

Ok, thanks.

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IMO if we change split policy to consider region's total size rather than HStore size, we should also correct the config name. We can follow deprecation cycle for the config. But with current hregion.max.filesize its more confusing.
Now this config make sense because after a major compaction all the files under a Store will become single large file. So based on this max possible size we decide the split (So we sum all file's size under a store).

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IMO if we change split policy to consider region's total size rather than HStore size, we should also correct the config name. We can follow deprecation cycle for the config. But with current hregion.max.filesize its more confusing.
Now this config make sense because after a major compaction all the files under a Store will become single large file. So based on this max possible size we decide the split (So we sum all file's size under a store).

I don't think changing the config name is strictly required. Official docs are clear about the expected behaviour for hbase.hregion.max.filesize, and this policy current violates that:

hbase.hregion.max.filesize Description Maximum HFile size. If the sum of the sizes of a region’s HFiles has grown to exceed this value, the region is split in two.

This policy also breaks MAX_FILESIZE table descriptor expected behaviour, as per ableDescriptorBuilder javadoc:

Returns the maximum size upto which a region can grow to after which a region split is triggered. The region size is represented by the size of the biggest store file in that region.

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bsglz commented Jun 25, 2020

@wchevreuil Seems there are different opinions, how about merge this first, and do more improvement in seperate jira when we reach consensus.

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@bsglz , sorry for the delay. So majority of people on the DISCUSS thread opined towards #3. I think @busbey suggestion to fix IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy for minor updates only is reasonable, so maybe we can merge this current one to branch-2.2 and branch-2.3, then for master and branch-2 we fix IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy.

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bsglz commented Jun 26, 2020

@bsglz , sorry for the delay. So majority of people on the DISCUSS thread opined towards #3. I think @busbey suggestion to fix IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy for minor updates only is reasonable, so maybe we can merge this current one to branch-2.2 and branch-2.3, then for master and branch-2 we fix IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy.

Ok, will do it in a follow-on issue. Thanks.

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bsglz commented Jun 27, 2020

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Thought it again, if this new splitPolicy is useable in branch-2.2 and branch-2.3, but disappear in branch-2.4 without deprecated cycle, is it break the compatibility guarantee?

IMO, maybe we can do as below:
1: In all actived branchs, add this new splitPolicy.
2: In minor branch set it as default policy and mark SteppingSpliyPolicy and IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy as deprecated, at the same time fix the ConstantSizeRegionSplitPolicy.

What do you think? Thanks.

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bsglz commented Jun 30, 2020

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bsglz commented Jun 30, 2020

2020-06-30 13:46:23,017 DEBUG [Time-limited test] util.ClassSize(421): Primitives=127, arrays=0, references=56, refSize 4, size=368, prealign_size=363

java.lang.AssertionError:
Expected :368
Actual :360

Checked the log of TestHeapSize.testSizes, seems there are 56*references, but the FIXED_OVERHEAD in HRegion only calc 55?
If change it to 56, this ut could pass in my local env, but not sure should do? @saintstack

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Thought it again, if this new splitPolicy is useable in branch-2.2 and branch-2.3, but disappear in branch-2.4 without deprecated cycle, is it break the compatibility guarantee?

Yeah, we can't simply remove it between minor releases.

IMO, maybe we can do as below:
1: In all actived branchs, add this new splitPolicy.

Agreed!

2: In minor branch set it as default policy and mark SteppingSpliyPolicy and IncreasingToUpperBoundRegionSplitPolicy as deprecated, at the same time fix the ConstantSizeRegionSplitPolicy.

Just to confirm my understanding of your proposal: adding the new policy as default, deprecation of the overridden ones and fix of ConstantSizeRegionSplitPolicy should go on master and branch-2 branches, whilst branch-2.2 and branch-2.3 would only have the new policy added? If so, I'm +1 for that.

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bsglz commented Jun 30, 2020

That's true.
Could you help to merge this pr to all active branch first, then i will do other things in follow-on issue for master and branch-2?
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bsglz commented Jul 1, 2020

@wchevreuil Filed a new issue for follow-on tasks, FYI. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-24664

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We had decided to go with approach from HBASE-24664.

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