Wrong information on README? (It *is* working with EVO 7.50+)

[fdcastel]

Alarm system

EVO 192 256K (DIGIPLEX)
Firmware 7.52.001
Bootloader 1.00.015

IP150
Firmware 1.34.000
Bootloader 2.12.001

BabyWare 5.4.26
Information from In-Field Paradox Upgrade Software.

Describe the bug

The README of project warns:

Do not upgrade EVO firmware versions to 7.50.000+. Process is irreversible! Paradox introduces serial communication encryption which most probably will break our PAI ability to talk to the panel.

However, I got myself a new EVO 192 panel which came with 7.52.001. And PAI is working fine with it. (I'm using via home assistant).

Has anybody more information about this? It seems clearly misleading or incomplete.

What I discovered, so far:

The firmware changelog available on paradox site indeed says:

V7.50.011(released on April 21, 2021)
Firmware Download
V7.50.011

What's new
- Added serial port encryption - the serial output will be operational only with Paradox devices (IP150/+, PCS250/260/265/265LTE, USB307)
- Added serial port unlock license key for 3rd party communication devices ( license can be purchased from Insite Gold Installer Menu)
- The unlock license key needs to be entered in keypad programming only, section 3000 – (Only TM50/TM70 keypads can be used - A-Z characters needed)
- Panel programming is compatible with BabyWare 5.4.26 version and up
- This firmware version cannot be downgraded

But, as I said, it is working.

Maybe it is working because my IP150 is running a VERY old firmware version? (pre-2016)

Sadly, the IP150 firmware changelog doesn't mention anything about cryptographic communications. So, I don't know what would be a "safe" version to upgrade it.

I'm using it on a test panel (not in production) with almost all default values (did a hard reset) except for users/zones/areas.

[yozik04]

Oh WOW! As none of us tried that new FW version with serial encryption yet we had to warn everybody as it sounded like a breaking change.
I will add your FW versions to our wiki's compatibility list.

Thank you for the great news.

[fdcastel]

Could anybody please report what version of IP150 firmware are you using?

(one which reportedly is working fine with PAI, of course) 😉

I'm asking this because I'm running a very old version (v1.34) and would like to upgrade to at least something newer.

[yozik04]

@fdcastel Please check compatibility wiki page.
You are lucky one to have 1.34 IP150 fw. People pull their hair our how to get that. 3.x+ adds only Insite Gold related functionality which is not possible to use if you want to use PAI. I, personally, will sit on 1.34 forever :) as it works great.

[fdcastel]

Understood. Thank you very much @yozik04 😄

@fdcastel Please check compatibility wiki page.

https://github.com/ParadoxAlarmInterface/pai/wiki/Compatibility

My fault. I missed this one entirely 😢

[PilgrimToHyperion]

I'm running IP150 (FW V5.02.045) and EVO192 256K (FW V7.52.001) with PAI and have zero problems so far (about a 2 weeks now). Using direct connection to IP150.

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[pedroandrade1977]

I'm running IP150 (FW V5.02.045) and EVO192 256K (FW V7.52.001) with PAI and have zero problems so far (about a 2 weeks now). Using direct connection to IP150.

Hi are you using also Insite Gold ? Does PAI work for you when using this?

[PilgrimToHyperion]

I've discontinued use of Insite Gold and only use PAI. But from what I remember, Insite Gold alerted on arming /disarming/alarm, but I could not log into it unless PAI was stopped.

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