Downloads page now looks messy

[IanButterworth]

Now

Before #2205

[StefanKarpinski]

Was clearly better before. Just revert?

[Keno]

Obviously the styling needs work, but I'm telling you, the version before did not work because people are completely blind to anything in the grey box. I watched half a dozen people just scroll directly past it.

[StefanKarpinski]

Maybe just change the color of the box to something like a light teal?

[StefanKarpinski]

The other thing I've proposed on Slack: have an /install page that just has the contents of the banner and a link to a /downloads page with downloads to manually install. Downloads page should have as the top item a link to /install saying that we recommend following the instructions there and to only use manual downloads if you have a compelling reason.

[Zentrik]

That seems similar to what rust's page looks like

[IanButterworth]

So we put the banner back and move everything else to another page that's linked to below?

[StefanKarpinski]

I think I've mostly addressed this by separating the downloads page into install and downloads in #2283. It might be good to improve the content of the install page, e.g. by including a section on uninstalling juliaup and julia. The main "messiness" on the install page at this point is that the script blocks are weirdly wide. My css chops are not good enough to figure out why.

[IanButterworth]

Looks like an improvement for sure.

Should everywhere we list https://julialang.org/downloads/ be updated? Julia docs, readmes and appropriate backports?

Alternatively make the new page /downloads and the other one/downloads/more or something? But then there are direct links to https://julialang.org/downloads/#supported_platforms too.

Outside the scope of your changes, but the styling is still not great. The link underlines are outdated style.

The rust page looks more intentionally styled.

[StefanKarpinski]

I swear I posted a reply to this, but now it's not there. I've opened JuliaLang/julia#58127 and #2285 to update references to /downloads/ to /install/.

Alternatively make the new page /downloads and the other one/downloads/more or something? But then there are direct links to https://julialang.org/downloads/#supported_platforms too.

I thought about this, but I'd really prefer for a page called "Install" to be at /install/ not /downloads/.

Outside the scope of your changes, but the styling is still not great. The link underlines are outdated style.

Yeah, my CSS isn't good enough to fix this. Maybe we can hire a designer to take a pass over the whole site at some point. I think the approach of having random people do drive-by partial redesigns and then disappear into the ether is never going to give us a great looking page.

[IanButterworth]

Yeah. Also pretty tricky to implement regression tests for UI stuff.. so it's going to need continual attention/care by anyone that PRs... Or we appoint someone as a design reviewer which would be an onerous task given the many PRs and subtle ways that design could regress..

[IanButterworth]

Hey AI... once per week check julialang.org for design/usability regressions and create PRs to fix any issues found

[StefanKarpinski]

Are we done here for now?

[StefanKarpinski]

Only outstanding issue from my perspective is that the code box is weirdly wide, but I'm kind of done with CSS spelunking for the day.