Future of the project after 5.27

[boehs]

KDE is adding tiling in 5.27, and having tested it, it has a really nice UX.

In Nate's "This Week In KDE" post, he writes:

also the new APIs added for it should benefit 3rd-party tiling scripts that do want to let you turn KWin into a tiling window manager. Thanks very much to Marco Martin for contributing this work, which will be released in Plasma 5.27!

Is there some way you see that these two awesome features can work together?

edit: oh no...

[gikari]

Thank you for raising this issue.

I think I am going to deprecate the add-on after 5.27 releases. Here are a couple of reasons:

1. As I see in [Bug]: Broken on KDE 5.27 beta #473, Bismuth apparently is not working in 5.27. Also, it is fundamentally incompatible by design with the new KWin feature and needs a rewrite from the ground up. As you can see from the project history, I am not so good at rewrites, primary because it is a very time-consuming task, which is impossible to do because of the second point.
2. Currently, I do not have enough time and will to work on Bismuth due to a full-time software developer job to which I am committed. In general, my lifestyle changed drastically in the recent year, so I have new things to do and discover. Which takes us to the third point.
3. I do not use KDE Plasma anymore, because it is no longer works for me as a technical solution for my problems, so I am no longer observe the KDE Community in the same amount of detail, that allow me to enhance my work on the add-on.

In my opinion, the best solution to the presented problem is to wait for someone with the fitting background to write a new KDE Plasma add-on, that is designed better around the new APIs and UI of Plasma 5.27 and eventually around Plasma 6. This would be better for the community in every way.

Sorry to inform about that.

[boehs]

thank you for your service to our community

[mattredact]

Thank you for raising this issue.

I think I am going to deprecate the add-on after 5.27 releases. Here are a couple of reasons:

1. As I see in [Bug]: Broken on KDE 5.27 beta #473, Bismuth apparently is not working in 5.27. Also, it is fundamentally incompatible by design with the new KWin feature and needs a rewrite from the ground up. As you can see from the project history, I am not so good at rewrites, primary because it is a very time-consuming task, which is impossible to do because of the second point.
2. Currently, I do not have enough time and will to work on Bismuth due to a full-time software developer job to which I am committed. In general, my lifestyle changed drastically in the recent year, so I have new things to do and discover. Which takes us to the third point.
3. I do not use KDE Plasma anymore, because it is no longer works for me as a technical solution for my problems, so I am no longer observe the KDE Community in the same amount of detail, that allow me to enhance my work on the add-on.

In my opinion, the best solution to the presented problem is to wait for someone with the fitting background to write a new KDE Plasma add-on, that is designed better around the new APIs and UI of Plasma 5.27 and eventually around Plasma 6. This would be better for the community in every way.

Sorry to inform about that.

thanks for everything! if you don’t mind me asking, what did you switch to after KDE?

[maxfinnsjo]

So long and thanks for all the tiling.

[adrianvg]

Thank you for raising this issue.

I think I am going to deprecate the add-on after 5.27 releases. Here are a couple of reasons:

1. As I see in [Bug]: Broken on KDE 5.27 beta #473, Bismuth apparently is not working in 5.27. Also, it is fundamentally incompatible by design with the new KWin feature and needs a rewrite from the ground up. As you can see from the project history, I am not so good at rewrites, primary because it is a very time-consuming task, which is impossible to do because of the second point.
2. Currently, I do not have enough time and will to work on Bismuth due to a full-time software developer job to which I am committed. In general, my lifestyle changed drastically in the recent year, so I have new things to do and discover. Which takes us to the third point.
3. I do not use KDE Plasma anymore, because it is no longer works for me as a technical solution for my problems, so I am no longer observe the KDE Community in the same amount of detail, that allow me to enhance my work on the add-on.

In my opinion, the best solution to the presented problem is to wait for someone with the fitting background to write a new KDE Plasma add-on, that is designed better around the new APIs and UI of Plasma 5.27 and eventually around Plasma 6. This would be better for the community in every way.

Sorry to inform about that.

Well, we all need to prioritise!
If this is the way Bismuth will go, I'd like to extend a thank you for the time given so far!
So thanks!

[ladydascalie]

Thank you so much for all your work so far.
It's sad to see Bismuth go, but it's totally understandable.

Congratulations on the awesome work, I'm pretty sure Bismuth is partly responsible for the popularity of tiling in the KDE community and probably was an influence on the decision to add those new features in 5.27

[b1scu1t]

I feared this would happen.
I'm the user that suggested a merger of Bismuth and Kronkite on your Matrix server.
Just want to say that you (@gikari), @esjeon, and the many other unnamed contributors did a damn good job. Kronkite/Bismuth was (arguably still is) the most feature-complete tiling window manager script for KWin, and I dread the day it finally stops working. Maybe both projects directly inspired the creation of KWin's new Tiling API...

Good luck in your future endeavours, and please don't start the Third Impact.

[PhusionDev]

Thanks for your hard work. I was using Bismuth on my Manjaro KDE setup as my first enjoyable tiler and enjoyed it a lot. I use amethyst on mac, and xmonad on my arch setup. I really liked bismuth and appreciate your efforts and wish you the best of luck in the future.

[phrxmd]

Thank you, and good luck!

[ca5ua1]

Thanks a lot!

[micoro]

Thank you for creating and maintaining this great tool until now.
I am sad to learn that it will be deprecated but that's life.

Good luck and thanks again.

[rabfel-hobmet]

bismuth is the main selling point of KDE for me. this is very sad, indeed.

[boehs]

bismuth is the main selling point of KDE for me. this is very sad, indeed.

As the author acknowledged and I mentioned in the original issue, KDE is getting some tiling support, and plugins should be able to tie in. It seems likely native tiling will eventually come (though It's possible developers will be reluctant to implement it until Plasma 6)