Cache mode: fromCache

[annevk]

We want to introduce fromCache member on Response objects. However, this in part depends on how we tackle #38 and also #39 of course. If a Response is partially formed from a cached entry, should it say "partial"?

[annevk]

Given that the use case for this is w3c/ServiceWorker#412 (comment) which is somewhat obscure, I'm not planning on addressing this for now.

[kanongil]

I don't think that the linked use case is all that valid regarding this feature. I'd say this #39 (comment) is much more applicable.

Determining whether a resource comes from the cache is an important part of the bandwidth estimation that must be handled when serving adaptive bitrate video content. The fromCache attribute would enable more accurate estimation. Currently, this can only be approximated using response timing information.

[annevk]

Yes, but from that issue we also know that only-if-cached is not acceptable for security reasons and this would expose exactly that. And if we limit this to same-origin it would not at all be interesting for video content.

[annevk]

Perhaps it's best to remove the "cache state" concept from the specification for now until we find a way to address these issues.

[kanongil]

Hmm... Given that the security concerns would be largely circumvented if the server allows the client to sends If-Modified-Since, If-None-Match, etc, it might be possible to use this to enable this feature for such CORS requests?

Of course this would require a CORS pre-flight request to discover, which means that the fromCache attribute would require a special mode / flag to enable on a request.

[mnot]

FWIW - I think this is a bit different than only-if-cached. The problem there is that it makes it possible to probe the cache without any corresponding traffic being emitted to the server, making it a passive attack.

Exposing fromCache doesn't do that; if someone tries to use it for probing, it will still emit traffic.

What it does do is slightly improve confidence as opposed to cache timing attacks (but they're pretty conclusive anyway, AIUI).

[ParkFramework]

Maybe, within server respons headers Cache-Control: stale-*, to solve this problem?
RFC5861
https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5861.txt

[annevk]

@mikewest what do you think with regards to @mnot analysis?