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Is it possible to add some kind of password protection? #1434

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stbeep1 opened this issue Jan 4, 2021 · 21 comments
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Is it possible to add some kind of password protection? #1434

stbeep1 opened this issue Jan 4, 2021 · 21 comments
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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

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Is it possible to add a password protection before allowing user to change any settings or turn off uBO any website or bypass uBO Temporarily/Permanently ?
Since some user will accidentally edit those settings or turned off uBO. This will be very useful for education environment.

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  • uBlock Origin version: v1.31.2
  • Browser Name and version: Google Chrome 85
  • Operating System and version: both Windows 10 (2004) and Chrome OS 85.
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uBlock-user commented Jan 4, 2021

Duplicate of #1129

You can use create admin policies too.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

I have checked #1129, but our cases is not the same, let me explain why:
The differences between me and #1246 is #1129 is only installing uBO as a standard user, but for my environment, I force installed the uBO extension on all managed devices (like a BYOD Chromebook or Windows laptop). So that, I requested for the password protection feature, mostly for education environment. Since some user will accidentally edit those settings or turned off uBO. Having the password protection feature will be very useful for education environment. Please consider reopening my "case" #1434 Thanks

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

@gorhill Please consider reopening my "case" #1434 Thanks

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Like I said before you can setup admin policies to force users to abide by those settings.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

Like I said before you can setup admin policies to force users to abide by those settings.

I tried setting up admin policies a few times on different OS/devices, but it cannot prevent users accidentally edit those settings or turned off uBO. I just saw a reddit post and many users were having the same issues that I have.

Currently, the policies that I can configure in admin consle we're extremely limited for uBO.

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gwarser commented Jan 4, 2021

Will it be enough to hide "Open the dashboard" button in uBO popup? popupPanelDisabledSections can be used for this.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

Will it be enough to hide "Open the dashboard" button in uBO popup?

Well, I think that's not enough.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

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@gwarser It will be great if uBO's settings page looks something like this. Is it possible to implement that? It will be beneficial for us.
Example_image(settings page)

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gwarser commented Jan 4, 2021

You can reduce uBO popup to big blue power button only, block access to add-on manager by policy and manage uBO settings by policy.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

You can reduce uBO popup to big blue power button only, block access to add-on manager by policy and manage uBO settings by policy.

Yes, I know and I did tried that. But currently, the policies that I can configure in admin consle we're extremely limited for uBO.

*I tried the admin settings for a few times on different BYOD devices.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

Is it possible to implement that? We really want to have the flexibility to manage those BYOD devices. Because in different situations we have different configures for end users.

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gorhill commented Jan 4, 2021

Password protection is way beyond what I want to deal in uBO, you are requesting me to deal with crypto stuff in uBO.

Forget about password protection, best is that you detail exactly the capabilities and settings you want to control as an admin, and from there I will see what can be done.

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gwarser commented Jan 4, 2021

But currently, the policies that I can configure in admin consle we're extremely limited for uBO.

It uses complete uBO settings backup - it can set everything, how it is limited for you?

We really want to have the flexibility to manage those BYOD devices. Because in different situations we have different configures for end users.

This sounds like you need better policy manager - not something uBO related. XY problem?

BYOD as "Bring your own device"? How this can be managed at all?

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

I felt sad to hear from you.
But There's no reason for me to request something unless. I considered some kind of password protection is necessary for the education/enterprise environment. Even there's are admin policies for uBO, it's still not enough. Please consider that again and I hope you can understand my situation. @gorhill

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gorhill commented Jan 4, 2021

You said you want to replace ABP with uBO. I don't see any such feature in ABP, so why would you think it's required in uBO -- especially that unlike ABP, here is not a business but entirely volunteer-driven work.

I will decline this as duplicate of #1129.

If you want specific settings to be admin-controlled in any way, please open specific issue for each of them.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

But currently, the policies that I can configure in admin consle we're extremely limited for uBO.

It uses complete uBO settings backup - it can set everything, how it is limited for you?

The main problem is that even we forced installed uBO via google admin console and pushed out the settings, end users can still change them when they want. I can describe this as 08:00AM we pushed out the settings then users mess around in the settings page, *they can still change the settings unless they reboot their devices. So that, I said it's limited for us. What do you think about that?

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

We really want to have the flexibility to manage those BYOD devices. Because in different situations we have different configures for end users.

This sounds like you need better policy manager - not something uBO related. XY problem?

Well, I don't think so, since "Regulations" cannot prevent users accidentally edit those settings or turned off uBO at anytime. I just saw a reddit post and many users were having the same issues as well.

BYOD as "Bring your own device"? How this can be managed at all?

We have an AUP.

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gorhill commented Jan 4, 2021

Well in the other issue here, you stated (my emphasis):

Sometimes I want to whitelist a website for my users, but I wanted to allow them to whitelist other websites.

How is this compatible with the issue here?

If you want specific setting to be read-only, we can discuss this, password protection is not the proper approach.

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gorhill commented Jan 4, 2021

Note that you can already restrict the popup panel to be minimal so as to prevent a user from using the extra capabilities in it:

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

If you want specific setting to be read-only, we can discuss this, password protection is not the proper approach.

Well, specific setting to be read-only is also a good thing.

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stbeep1 commented Jan 4, 2021

Side note: uBO is still my still my favourite Chrome extensions since 2015. I am not a uBO haters or any "business oriented movement guy" that I of thing. I totally agree the perspective/idea of the uBO team.

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