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| 1 | +# W3C Solid Community Group: Weekly |
| 2 | + |
| 3 | +* Date: 2026-07-08T14:00:00Z |
| 4 | +* Call: https://meet.jit.si/solid-cg |
| 5 | +* Repository: https://github.com/solid/specification |
| 6 | + |
| 7 | +## Chair |
| 8 | + |
| 9 | +* [elf Pavlik](https://elf-pavlik.hackers4peace.net) |
| 10 | + |
| 11 | +## Present |
| 12 | + |
| 13 | +* Alain Bourgeois |
| 14 | +* Christoph Braun - [uvdsl](https://github.com/uvdsl) |
| 15 | +* Jesse Wright - [jeswr](https://jeswr.org/#me) |
| 16 | +* Biagio Boi - [biagioboi](https://github.com/biagioboi) |
| 17 | +* Ross Horne |
| 18 | +* [Erich Bremer](https://ebremer.com) |
| 19 | +* Marc Haddle(marc.haddle@datasolids.com) |
| 20 | +* Rui Zhao |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +## Regrets |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +* |
| 25 | + |
| 26 | +## Scribe |
| 27 | + |
| 28 | +* CB |
| 29 | + |
| 30 | +--- |
| 31 | + |
| 32 | +### Meeting Guidelines |
| 33 | + |
| 34 | +* [W3C Solid Community Group Calendar](https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/solid/calendar). |
| 35 | +* [W3C Solid Community Group Meeting Guidelines](https://github.com/w3c-cg/solid/blob/main/meetings/README.md). |
| 36 | +* No audio or video recording, or automated transcripts without consent. Meetings are transcribed and made public. If consent is withheld by anyone, recording/retention must not occur. |
| 37 | +* Join queue to talk. |
| 38 | +* Topics can be proposed at the bottom of the agenda to be discussed as time allows. Make it known if a topic is urgent or cannot be postponed. |
| 39 | + |
| 40 | +### Participation and Code of Conduct |
| 41 | + |
| 42 | +* [Join the W3C Solid Community Group](https://www.w3.org/community/solid/join), [W3C Account Request](http://www.w3.org/accounts/request), [W3C Community Contributor License Agreement](https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/) |
| 43 | +* [Solid Code of Conduct](https://github.com/solid/process/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md), [Positive Work Environment at W3C: Code of Conduct](https://www.w3.org/policies/code-of-conduct/) |
| 44 | +* Operating principle for effective participation is to allow access across disabilities, across country borders, and across time. Feedback on tooling and meeting timing is welcome. |
| 45 | +* If this is your first time, welcome! Please introduce yourself. |
| 46 | + |
| 47 | +--- |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | +## Introductions |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +## Announcements |
| 52 | + |
| 53 | +### OS Tools meetings |
| 54 | + |
| 55 | +https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/a6b0a3dc-30fe-4f08-ac74-f51ba5418d07/ |
| 56 | + |
| 57 | +* JW: Going to be talking about Solid-OIDC and corresponding libs. |
| 58 | + * ... Samu, Aaron, Christoph, Ben will be there. |
| 59 | + |
| 60 | +## Actions Review |
| 61 | + |
| 62 | +- JW to make a map of the different w2c group ( for TPAC ? ) |
| 63 | + * JW: nothing to show right now, but similar work currently ongoing for a thing for LWS, so maybe show something for this next week. One application for the map is to help push adoption of shared needs in https://github.com/jeswr/http-query-adoption |
| 64 | + |
| 65 | +## Topics |
| 66 | + |
| 67 | +### Demos |
| 68 | + |
| 69 | +* CB: MANDAT - redirects between business app and authorization app |
| 70 | + * ... Demo Video: https://purl.archive.org/mandatb2b/JWE2024 |
| 71 | + * ... Solid World Feb 2025: https://vimeo.com/1062571527?share=copy#t=2921.799 |
| 72 | + * ... Paper: https://journals.riverpublishers.com/index.php/JWE/article/view/27783 |
| 73 | + * ... Latest development on Authorization App: https://github.com/uvdsl/solid-authorization-app |
| 74 | +* eP: This is an interaction between a "regular app" to a "specialised app". |
| 75 | + |
| 76 | +### TPAC Session for Solid CG |
| 77 | + |
| 78 | +https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2026/tpac-2026/ |
| 79 | + |
| 80 | +* JW: will check on LWS WG |
| 81 | +* eP: Theo, could you coordinate with the Social CG/WG |
| 82 | +* th: I can have a look, more time in September if that is not too late |
| 83 | +* eP: I think it would be best used time to meet with other groups |
| 84 | +* th: Never been to TPAC, so I don't know how sessions look, so I am not to comfortable to organize something. |
| 85 | +* eP: It is already scheduled, so that part is done, it is more on preparing an agenda, what makes sense to discuss together. |
| 86 | + |
| 87 | +### Proposal: access controlled SPARQL query |
| 88 | + |
| 89 | +https://github.com/jeswr/solid-sparql-query |
| 90 | + |
| 91 | +* JW: response is over the named graphs, and the named graphs that you have access to |
| 92 | +* CB: Solid resources can also be RDF datasets, so this might be a more general problem to solve |
| 93 | +* eP: How do you discover the sparql endpoint of a query |
| 94 | +* JW: Right now, just using the root container, but maybe it should be a different one |
| 95 | +* eP: Maybe focus on the easy problems (like discovery) first, and then the difficult ones (like authorization) later |
| 96 | + |
| 97 | +### Proposal: upgrade to skip DPoP |
| 98 | + |
| 99 | +https://github.com/jeswr/dpop-sk-spec |
| 100 | + |
| 101 | +* JW: One of the discoveries form me benchmarking is that authentication is a substantial overhead. |
| 102 | + * ... DPoP verification was the main bottleneck. |
| 103 | + * ... so, the idea here is to allow clients to upgrade to a mechanism that does not require DPoP. |
| 104 | +* RH: Who is being contacted in this process? |
| 105 | +* JW: The access token from the AS is issued once, while the DPoP token is cryptographically verified. |
| 106 | +* eP: DPoP only happens for the token exchange in Solid-OIDC? https://elf-pavlik.github.io/lws-auth/view/oidc/?dynamic=sequence (no dpop only aud restrictions) |
| 107 | +* JW: Not sure if I follow. I understand DPoP to prevent an attacker to re-use extracted tokens. |
| 108 | +* CB: various questions on upraded to what - concerns about extractability of the symmetric key |
| 109 | + |
| 110 | +### Proposal: WebAuthn re-authentication |
| 111 | + |
| 112 | +https://github.com/jeswr/solid-webauthn-reauth-spec |
| 113 | + |
| 114 | +### Proposal: intent handover (login as + open resource) |
| 115 | + |
| 116 | +https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/799 |
| 117 | + |
| 118 | +## Actions |
| 119 | + |
| 120 | +## Decisions |
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