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Web Conference 2023.11.21 Curb
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- Monthly on Tuesday call at 9am PT, 12pm ET, 5/6pm CET
Meeting ID: 898 5980 7668 - Passcode 320307
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- Welcome - Brian Hamlin, SDOT (5 mins)
- Announcements - Michael Schnuerle, OMF (5 mins)
- OMF Summit Recap
- Presentation - Belltown Seattle and Urban Freight Lab (10 mins)
- Curb Objects Draft (30 mins): Issue #123, PR #126
- CurbIQ draft of integration into CDS 1.1 or 2.0
- Hosts: Brian Hamlin, SDOT
- Note Taker: Brian Hamlin, SDOT
- Facilitator: Brian Hamlin, SDOT
- Outreach: Michael Schnuerle, OMF
- How do others store the geometry of their assets? Individual points?
- Please review list of object types and state if anything should be added. Should the list be locked or open for users to add more?
- 27 Attendees
- OMF Slides
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Recording - Password
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- Brian kicked off the meeting by welcome everyone in attendance and provided a background on CDS
- Michael went over announcements. Highlighting the successful OMF Summit at CoMotion and introduced new OMF staff to the working group. Aylene McCallum, Mitch Vars, and Em Burnett.
- Dr. Giacomo Dalla Chiara presented his research on Understanding Delivery Drivers’ Curb Behavior
- Noted that there are three components of deliver. Drive – Park – Walk
- In one of his studies, it was found that 80% of a drivers time was spent outside the vehicle during urban delivery routes
- With walking being so high, more research has been conducted on the role of walking.
- Research has been done on how curb availability affects total route time
- If harder to find parking – walk time is very high
- If more parking, driver will drive more
- Proving curb availability increases driving and reduces walking.
- The city must balance providing more curb space and discouraging too much driving
- Questions
- Jonathan LaChance - out of vehicle time, when does the clock start?
- Clock starts when you park, in vehicle time, out of vehicle time
- Elias – what is the average distance from warehouse to a city?
- 15 miles away from urban centroid. Average distance between trips is less than a mile
- Brian – this research seems to show a need for cargo bike delivery?
- Highly dependent on cargo bikes. With cargo bikes, walking is 60%
- Jonathan LaChance - out of vehicle time, when does the clock start?
- Questions
- Michael provided level setting on the direction that the CDS WGSC would like to head in
- Jacob Malleau presented on what he has been working on over the last month by showing the WG a screenshare of GitHub
- Curb Objects are another element with the CURBS api
- Curb Objects can be located anywhere but must relate to a curbs space or a curb zone
- Geometry is listed as individual point now
- We would like to know how others store this type of information
- We would like to stick with one geometry type
- Michael – we could add an optional field to define a polygon shape
- Passport – from an admin standpoint, point is most efficient given the number of objects that could be present
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Please review list of object types and state if anything should be added
- The list is intended to be exhaustive but open to discussion
- Michael – we should consider including external links for additional information. Such as plugshare or other public facing location. URL with more information to Object
- Miranda – Policy would be assingned to EV charger as an object or assigned to a space where EVs would park next to an object?
- Michael – policy attached to a zone
- Leave comments in GitHub – what are your use cases for this
- How objects relate to events – similar to zones and space relate to event