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[REVIEW]: treesiftr: An R package and server for viewing phylogenetic trees and data #35
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@ethanwhite, @rachelss — Thank you for agreeing to review this submission for JOSE! We are happy to welcome you to our adventure in scholarly publishing of open-source educational software and learning resources. JOSE has published seven papers so far 😃 — have a look: http://jose.theoj.org @juanklopper will be your handling editor: you're in good hands. |
@ethanwhite, @rachelss a big thank you from me too. I look forward to your input with this submission. Let me know if there are any questions. If I can't help then @labarba will most definitely have the answers. |
@juanklopper - @wrightaprilm and I are co-authors on a Data Carpentry lesson (http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.570050). There are a large number of authors and I don't believe that this interferes with my objectivity, but it was in the last 4 years. I am reporting this to you as requested in the CoI link for your input. |
Thanks for reporting this, @ethanwhite. I agree that this doesn't present conflict. |
OK, great. Thanks @labarba. I will proceed. |
A couple of questions/comments for @wrightaprilm from the "General checks" section:
Following the R packaging standard the
The repository is lacking a current release. If you're waiting to tag |
This uncertainty is why the package is the way it is right now. I put the MIT license in the description, but wasn't sure where else that info needed to be, if anywhere.
Bingo! |
There are a couple of typos in paper.md - specifically [application]((https://wrightaprilm.shinyapps.io/treesiftr_app/) has an extra parenthesis in two places; the phrase "30-day paleobiological data " needs to be fixed, "non-paramtric" should be "non-parametric", "and use in " should be "which I use in". You might want to render with pandoc to check everything looks write prior to resubmission. @juanklopper - I'd suggest that the submission requirements suggest submitters render paper.md with pandoc prior to submission in general as it's easier to proofread that way. To install treesiftR I need ggtree. To install ggtree I need BiocManager. To install BiocManager I need R >= v3.5 . Alternatively I was able to install ggtree on my older version of R with older version of bioconductor with BiocInstaller::biocLite("ggtree"). I should probably keep everything up to date, and I realize listing dependencies is sufficient, but I bet I'm not the only one who doesn't update so including these extra instructions would help out. |
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@wrightaprilm I could use a bit more explanation in the Instructor's Guide and the Shiny app. Or maybe I missed a piece of documentation? I went straight to Guide and app. After navigating to the app I am instructed to subset a phylogenetic matrix. Where did the matrix come from? Maybe you could explain the data a bit first. That would help understand when I'm setting start = 1 what that means. You might put similar text on the app itself for users. The character matrix on the righthand side of the app is not intuitive. Some words in the app to explain what these blocks are would help. Also, just having the blocks on the right doesn't make it obvious that the root / internal nodes are one color or the other - can you put colors of ancestral states on the tree? Is the ability to view the likelihood score useful? I can see the tree is less likely with more characters but really you want to compare likelihoods for a single dataset not across datasets, and students can't do that here. But maybe parsimony isn't sufficient to really explain phylogeny estimation - it would depend on the class. How much can Shinyapps.io handle? How many students could be using the app simultaneously? How many students across the country could be using it in a class (ie if a bunch of classes start using this will the app no longer be available)? Just wondering if there will end up being limitations that will make this difficult to use widely. You might need to provide guidance for users to prevent the app from crashing. @juanklopper - is this how we're supposed to write these reviews? |
Thanks, @rachelss, for these comments. I'll start working on them. With re:
I agree that this would be a useful addition to the author guidelines. I rendered in RStudio, which has its own idiosyncrasies. With a research paper submission, we normally think about grabbing the Latex template and rendering as you go, so that is a suggestion that would feel natural to people. Including a link to the template or preferred pandoc settings is something folks should have no real trouble with. |
@wrightaprilm I'm back from all my duties as external examiner and wanted to know how you are getting along. Big thanks to @rachelss Excellent insight and suggestions. |
I think we're good, thanks! Just waiting on @ethanwhite, in case there are conflicts between the two reviews. Which is fine, I think we've all had some end-of-semester stuff going on that would make revising hard ;) |
Here's my review. Thanks for your patience and understanding @wrightaprilm. The end of the semester is indeed an... interesting time. Overall, great work and really useful. I think this will be a great addition to a number of workshops and classrooms. For every checkbox that I haven't checked I've provided a description of what I think can be improved to make this ready to go. General Checks
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Great, thanks both. Doesn't look like there's too much conflict between these two reviews. So revisions should go like dominoes, eh? @juanklopper - what do I have for timing here? Am I OK to come back with these notes addressed in January? |
👋 @wrightaprilm Happy New Year! You can proceed with the revision at your own pace, but it would be great to keep it going. Keep us posted! |
Happy New Year, y'all. I've responded to most of the points raised by reviewers. I'm still working on @rachelss's excellent suggestions about ancestral states + random trees, and should finish it tomorrow. I made the rest of the suggested edits, but made notes where I found suggestions confusing and/or wasn't sure how to resolve them within journal style. Edit: Thanks much to all four of you; this has been really helpful! Rachel's review: I could use a bit more explanation in the Instructor's Guide and the Shiny app. Or maybe I missed a piece of documentation? I went straight to Guide and app. After navigating to the app I am instructed to subset a phylogenetic matrix. Where did the matrix come from? Maybe you could explain the data a bit first. That would help understand when I'm setting start = 1 what that means. You might put similar text on the app itself for users. I added some text to the instructor's guide, and added popify objects to the web interface to provide more information about the options, and a citation for the dataset. The character matrix on the righthand side of the app is not intuitive. Some words in the app to explain what these blocks are would help. Also, just having the blocks on the right doesn't make it obvious that the root / internal nodes are one color or the other - can you put colors of ancestral states on the tree? This is a fantastic idea. I'm still working on this, but the short answer should be yes. Is the ability to view the likelihood score useful? I can see the tree is less likely with more characters but really you want to compare likelihoods for a single dataset not across datasets, and students can't do that here. But maybe parsimony isn't sufficient to really explain phylogeny estimation - it would depend on the class. Ideally, you're correct. But I'm likely to add to this package later. We have a paper in the works on some alternative models of morphological evolution, and something that I'm likely to expand into in the future is adding more buttons to see how the assumptions made about the data change the likelihood score we compute for the data. The differences are large enough that they can be seen on a single character. How much can Shinyapps.io handle? How many students could be using the app simultaneously? How many students across the country could be using it in a class (ie if a bunch of classes start using this will the app no longer be available)? Just wondering if there will end up being limitations that will make this difficult to use widely. You might need to provide guidance for users to prevent the app from crashing. Thank you, added this info! Ethan's: License: The license file follows R's guidelines, but as a result the repository does not include an actual license. Could I have some editor guidance on this one? I followed R conventions (LICENSE file + link in the DESCRIPTION to a license), but if there's something else required, I'm happy to provide it. I'd also suggest adding a pdf of the Instructors Guide and linking to it directly from the README so that it is easy to find and read for someone first encountering the package online. Good plan! Done. Community guildelines: There is a code of conduct (which is awesome!) but I didn't find information on how to contribute or seek support. Good catch - I put these in the .github folder, which I then forgot to commit and push. I moved the CONDUCT file in here, too, so it pops up when someone opens an issue or PR. Question on this - rOpenSci allows you to put an email for the organization, if people need to report that a maintainer (i.e. me) is the problem on a code of conduct issue. Does JOSE have a similar email address? I didn't see one, but it's possible I did not look in the right place. Learning Objectives: are a little difficult to determine from the current documentation. I understand that they are about helping students understand tree construction and phylogeny more broadly, but it would be helpful to lay this out a little more explicitly. I think a second short paragraph in the Introduction of the Instructors guide should be sufficient. Good idea. I added a list of learning objectives to each subsection of the instructor guide, and which questions addressed each. Usage: I think it would be useful in both the README and the Instructions guide to include some documentation designed to explain specifically how someone would adopt the module in a teaching setting. This is covered a bit in the JOSE paper and you get the idea that the learning material is lab exercise focused from the vignettes, but I'd suggest also putting some of those ideas front and center in the README and Instructors Guide so that folks more immediately understand the goals of the package and learing materials. & Use in classroom or other settings: I think just a couple of additional sentences describing how to adopt this material would make a big differences for helping make clear to readers exactly how they could use the material. I'm not quite sure how to get at this differently than I have. I added one sentence on this at the end of the second paragraph of the statement of need, and one to the end of the introduction to the instructor's guide. References: Lewis 2001 is missing the DOI: 10.1080/106351501753462876 Good catch. |
All right, I implemented Rachel's idea to generate random trees to show how traits score differently when phylogenetic relationships are not informative with respect to trait evolution. With respect to the question of ancestral states: ggtree is developed quite separately from the rest of the phylogenetics R space. I think the appropriate way to handle this feature is to make a pull request against Phangorn to add an additional output type for their ancestral state estimation machinery. Would it be all right if I put this suggestion on a longer-term feature request timetable, as opposed to immediately for review? I'm happy to do it, but with involving additional developers on other projects, there is a lot out of my control on this. Again, thanks all four of you. |
LGTM! Pending editorial input on the license (my personal take on the best compromise solution is above in the discussion related to adding a |
👋 @rachelss — It sounds like the author has addressed a bunch of review comments. Can you go over things and let us know here if your comments have been addressed and you are ready to recommend publication? Thanks! |
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@wrightaprilm You have an extra paren that breaks the link in the beginning of the second paragraph. |
Let's try it! |
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OK, had to fix one citation to R core, but looks fine. Fingers crossed! |
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OK, looks good! |
I think bibtex expects
Entries like this one need updating: |
Right, just went ahead and stripped off the `https' wrappers. Will re-render. |
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Checking all the links and ... http://ggplot2.org shows "not found"? |
Did you want this URL instead? |
I changed the link in my .bib. That's from the maintainer's own bibtex entry on their site. I should probably make a pull request and let them know its broken. Good catch! |
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Thanks so much @juanklopper, @rachelss, @ethanwhite and @labarba! |
Well done @wrightaprilm and thank you to everyone for their input. |
Submitting author: @wrightaprilm (April Wright)
Repository: https://github.com/wrightaprilm/treesiftr
Version: v1.0.0
Editor: @juanklopper
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