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|  | 1 | +# Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2015-09-16 | 
|  | 2 | + | 
|  | 3 | +## Links | 
|  | 4 | + | 
|  | 5 | +* **Audio Recording**: https://soundcloud.com/node-foundation/tsc-meeting-2015-09-16 | 
|  | 6 | +* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2898 | 
|  | 7 | +* **Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RCR2pGOc2d80NNusaX5DZaktWvHEsDUqfEZP-tvexBk | 
|  | 8 | +* _Previous Minutes Google Doc: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rXBdtsD9PJTExNXgzNZ9bez9oOjW45kLPjun4zdt0dY>_ | 
|  | 9 | + | 
|  | 10 | +## Present | 
|  | 11 | + | 
|  | 12 | +* Rod Vagg (TSC) | 
|  | 13 | +* Brian White (TSC) | 
|  | 14 | +* Steven R Loomis | 
|  | 15 | +* Fedor Indutny (TSC) | 
|  | 16 | +* Bert Belder (TSC) | 
|  | 17 | +* Colin Ihrig (TSC) | 
|  | 18 | +* Trevor Norris (TSC) | 
|  | 19 | +* Shigeki Ohtsu (TSC) | 
|  | 20 | +* Chris Dickinson (TSC) | 
|  | 21 | +* Jeremiah Senkpiel (TSC) | 
|  | 22 | +* Ben Noordhuis (TSC) | 
|  | 23 | +* Alexis Campailla (TSC) | 
|  | 24 | +* Domenic Denicola | 
|  | 25 | +* Michael Dawson | 
|  | 26 | + | 
|  | 27 | +## Agenda | 
|  | 28 | + | 
|  | 29 | +Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests in the nodejs org prior to meeting. | 
|  | 30 | + | 
|  | 31 | +### nodejs/node-v0.x-archive | 
|  | 32 | + | 
|  | 33 | +* Deprecate Array#values() in 0.12.x [#25877](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25877) | 
|  | 34 | +* Deprecate smalloc in v0.12 [#25784](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25784) | 
|  | 35 | + | 
|  | 36 | +### nodejs/node | 
|  | 37 | + | 
|  | 38 | +* Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) | 
|  | 39 | +* util: Remove p, has been deprecated for years [#2529](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2529) | 
|  | 40 | + | 
|  | 41 | +## Minutes | 
|  | 42 | + | 
|  | 43 | +Due to IBM’s acquisition of StrongLoop, IBM is over the TSC 25% company limit rule. Michael Dawson and Steven Loomis have stepped down from TSC, but they are here as observers. | 
|  | 44 | + | 
|  | 45 | +### Standup | 
|  | 46 | + | 
|  | 47 | +* Rod Vagg: Released 4.0.0, also 3.3.1 maintenance release. Getting the build system ready for building/publishing 0.10 and 0.12 binaries. | 
|  | 48 | +* Brian White: not much, triaging issues and PRs, some work on dns parser | 
|  | 49 | +* Steven R Loomis: tsc resignation for IBM/SL merge, some issue triage, working on a more robust download for ICU (ICU server was overloaded, fixed to ICU again redirects to sourceforge, discussed longer term discussions)  | 
|  | 50 | +* Fedor Indutny: v8’s ArrayBuffer fixes, reviewing PRs, fixing issues | 
|  | 51 | +* Bert Belder: very few reviews/issue comments. Some libuv work on rwlocks. | 
|  | 52 | +* Colin Ihrig: not much, some issue tracker work | 
|  | 53 | +* Trevor Norris: Trying to make things (including Buffers) faster, some issue/PR review | 
|  | 54 | +* Shigeki Ohtsu: Just a few reviews of issues. | 
|  | 55 | +* Chris Dickinson: Working on shoving static npm analysis data into a database, slowly     | 
|  | 56 | +* Jeremiah Senkpiel: NodeConf.eu, issues and PRs, 4.1.0 release | 
|  | 57 | +* Ben Noordhuis: only PR review and responding to bug reports, a patch or two upstreamed to v8 | 
|  | 58 | +* Alexis Campailla: ARM cross-compile for CI. Misc fixes for VS 2015 / Win10 | 
|  | 59 | +* Domenic Denicola: some issue and PR review, talking with v8 team | 
|  | 60 | +* Michael Dawson: landed the build updated for AIX, also updating the tests for AIX where necessary. Looking into PPC failures. Working on getting us hooked into v8 security notifications. | 
|  | 61 | + | 
|  | 62 | +### Previous meeting’s agenda | 
|  | 63 | + | 
|  | 64 | +* Jenkins merge jobs always overwrites PR-URL and Reviewed-By [#179](https://github.com/nodejs/build/issues/179) | 
|  | 65 | +* doc: update COLLABORATOR_GUIDE [#2638](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2638) | 
|  | 66 | +* deps: update v8 to 4.5.103.30 [#2632](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2632) | 
|  | 67 | +* Node.js v4 Release Timeline [#2522](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2522) | 
|  | 68 | +* Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) | 
|  | 69 | + | 
|  | 70 | +### Deprecate Array#values() in 0.12.x [#25877](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25877) | 
|  | 71 | + | 
|  | 72 | +### Deprecate smalloc in v0.12 [#25784](https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/25784) | 
|  | 73 | + | 
|  | 74 | +Jeremiah: Are these things that we think we can do? Should we go ahead with that? Is it a good idea to deprecate these things? | 
|  | 75 | + | 
|  | 76 | +Ben: How are we going to deprecate? Literal `util.deprecate`? | 
|  | 77 | + | 
|  | 78 | +Jeremiah: Probably? | 
|  | 79 | + | 
|  | 80 | +Trevor: They’re already floating a patch | 
|  | 81 | + | 
|  | 82 | +Rod: I’m fine with deprecating smalloc | 
|  | 83 | + | 
|  | 84 | +Trevor: Is there a deprecation cycle between LTS? I’m not sure how this would work? (i.e., if we deprecate now, LTS -> LTS upgraders will not see a deprecation warning.) | 
|  | 85 | + | 
|  | 86 | +Rod: Maybe punt to LTS WG? It could be quite a lot — it could be that we decide between stable versions to remove things (or we’re forced to), do we backport the deprecation to LTS? | 
|  | 87 | + | 
|  | 88 | +Jeremiah: I think it should be only for things we’re _forced_ to remove  | 
|  | 89 | + | 
|  | 90 | +Action: Punt to LTS WG | 
|  | 91 | + | 
|  | 92 | +### Inspecting Node.js with Chrome DevTools [#2546](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2546) | 
|  | 93 | + | 
|  | 94 | +Trevor: Have an 80% understanding of the work needed: WebSocket support in core (though not necessarily exposed publicly), API injection points. Are we ok with including web sockets support one way or another? | 
|  | 95 | + | 
|  | 96 | +Rod, Domenic, others: +1 | 
|  | 97 | + | 
|  | 98 | +### util: Remove p, has been deprecated for years [#2529](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/2529) | 
|  | 99 | + | 
|  | 100 | +Discussion of Buffer “raw{s,}” encoding as well — undocumented, deprecated, inconsistently implemented in core. | 
|  | 101 | + | 
|  | 102 | +Action: Remove util.p (Jeremiah to respond.) | 
|  | 103 | + | 
|  | 104 | +Bert: Perhaps we should bulk remove? | 
|  | 105 | + | 
|  | 106 | +Rod: util.p is relatively trivial, has a deprecation warning, etc. | 
|  | 107 | + | 
|  | 108 | +Jeremiah: Brought this up because these things have been deprecated forever. util.exec has been deprecated for a while, as well. | 
|  | 109 | + | 
|  | 110 | +Trevor: raw/raws are deprecated in name only, no warnings, but C++ layer does not know about them (falls back to utf8) — maybe should be removed as a bugfix, because it does not work consistently. | 
|  | 111 | + | 
|  | 112 | +Action: Chris to list “least used stuff” (with apologies for how longs its taken!) | 
|  | 113 | + | 
|  | 114 | +### Next Meeting | 
|  | 115 | + | 
|  | 116 | +September 23 | 
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