Node.js Foundation Core Technical Committee (CTC) Meeting 2017-07-19

[Trott]

Time

UTC Wed 19-Jul-2017 16:00 (04:00 PM):

Timezone	Date/Time
US / Pacific	Wed 19-Jul-2017 09:00 (09:00 AM)
US / Mountain	Wed 19-Jul-2017 10:00 (10:00 AM)
US / Central	Wed 19-Jul-2017 11:00 (11:00 AM)
US / Eastern	Wed 19-Jul-2017 12:00 (noon)
Amsterdam	Wed 19-Jul-2017 18:00 (06:00 PM)
Moscow	Wed 19-Jul-2017 19:00 (07:00 PM)
Chennai	Wed 19-Jul-2017 19:30 (09:30 PM)
Hangzhou	Thu 20-Jul-2017 00:00 (midnight)
Tokyo	Thu 20-Jul-2017 01:00 (01:00 AM)
Sydney	Thu 20-Jul-2017 02:00 (02:00 AM)

Or in your local time:

• http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Node.js+Foundation+Core%20Technical%20Committee%20(CTC)+Meeting+2017-07-19&iso=20170719T16
• or http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4pm+UTC%2C+Jul+19%2C+2017+in+local+time

Links

• Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e2swU5o5-a2xCXnTuKJEX3E_xtbUnyimcfnyMn6dFx4

Agenda

Extracted from ctc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

• meta: semver impact of Error messages #13937

Invited

• Anna Henningsen @addaleax (CTC)
• Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
• Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC)
• Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
• Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
• Franziska Hinkelmann @fhinkel (CTC)
• Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
• Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC)
• James M Snell @jasnell (CTC)
• Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (CTC)
• Matteo Collina @mcollina (CTC)
• Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
• Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC)
• Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
• Myles Borins @MylesBorins (CTC)
• Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
• Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
• Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC)
• Michaël Zasso @targos (CTC)
• Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye (CTC)
• Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
• Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)

Observers

• Bradley Meck @bmeck (GoDaddy/TC39)
• Tracy Hinds @hackygolucky (Node.js Foundation Education Community Manager)
• Josh Gavant @joshgav (Microsoft)
• Kaitlyn Barnard @kbarnard10 (Node.js Foundation Newsletter Curator)
• Mark Hinkle @mrhinkle (Node.js Foundation Executive Director)

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with ctc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

Uberconference; participants should have the link & numbers, contact me if you don't.

Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the CTC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for it.

[Trott]

Items labeled ctc-review. @nodejs/ctc PTAL:

• Invert dependency between core and readable-stream
• buffer: implement WHATWG Encoding Standard API
• repl: make REPLServer.bufferedCommand private
• promises: more robust stringification
• src: adjust windows abort behavior to make sense

[guybedford]

@Trott would it be possible to add an agenda item for the "module" property proposal at https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/60/files#diff-b193302c6b58f3c92b9098094d833b64R140? It would be really great to be able to open some discussion on the approach.

[fhinkel]

The official calendar shows the meeting as 1 pm pacific time. Did we change the schedule?

[targos]

The calendar must be wrong. The meeting schedule shows 9 am pacific time. I suppose the calendar wasn't updated correctly when we switched to a biweekly meeting.

[Trott]

@Trott would it be possible to add an agenda item for the "module" property proposal at https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/60/files#diff-b193302c6b58f3c92b9098094d833b64R140? It would be really great to be able to open some discussion on the approach.

@guybedford Anybody can add an item to the agenda, so sure, totally possible. Personally, I'd be inclined to allow more time for general comment and discussion in the pull request before involving the CTC. (That PR has been open for only 4 days.) Would it be OK to instead put it on the agenda for next meeting (in two weeks)?

At this time, I'll certainly do the following:

• use a PR comment to @-mention some folks who are likely to have opinions so as to see what kinds of feedback we get
• since EPs do have to be voted on by CTC, add ctc-agenda and ctc-review labels

[Trott]

Can someone with write access to the Google calendar (for all Node.js meetings) fix the meeting time for this week (9AM PDT) and August 2 as well (1PM PDT)? Thanks in advance! /cc @williamkapke @mhdawson

[guybedford]

@Trott many thanks! My primary goal is mainly just to create an active space here for consideration. Appreciated for the cc's - I'll get back to the initial questions there, but would still value a slot tomorrow if possible, even if it means less time to discuss or go into the details initially.

[mcollina]

@Trott I have access, and I have update the next ones. If you tell me how these are recurring, I will fix the recurring schedule as well.

[targos]

I think these are recurring like this:

• 11:00:00 UTC
• no meeting
• 16:00:00 UTC
• no meeting
• 20:00:00 UTC
• no meeting
• 11:00:00 UTC
• ...

So each different time occurs every 6 week.

[mcollina]

I updated the recurring events in the calendar. Let me know if they are correct.

[targos]

Recurrence is missing for the 20:00:00 UTC meetings. Apart from that, LGTM.

[mcollina]

@targos done.

[MylesBorins]

I would like us to add a general discussion around Turbo-Fan + ignition.. specifically so we can agree on a release plan

I've added ctc-agenda to #155 to reflect this request

[mhdawson]

I've added ctc-agenda to nodejs/Release#223. Still may need a bit of final tweaking but I think the general scope/wording is close enough to validate that the CTC agrees with chartering the Release WG in this context.