diff --git a/apps/files_external/lib/Config/ConfigAdapter.php b/apps/files_external/lib/Config/ConfigAdapter.php
index 57faf91fcdcad..7f7c5e3e2ebc3 100644
--- a/apps/files_external/lib/Config/ConfigAdapter.php
+++ b/apps/files_external/lib/Config/ConfigAdapter.php
@@ -163,7 +163,7 @@ public function getMountsForUser(IUser $user, IStorageFactory $loader) {
 					$storageConfig->getId()
 				);
 			} else {
-				return new ExternalMountPoint(
+				return new SystemMountPoint(
 					$storageConfig,
 					$storage,
 					'/' . $user->getUID() . '/files' . $storageConfig->getMountPoint(),
diff --git a/apps/files_external/lib/Config/SystemMountPoint.php b/apps/files_external/lib/Config/SystemMountPoint.php
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000000..7de07699164c9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/files_external/lib/Config/SystemMountPoint.php
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+<?php
+
+declare(strict_types=1);
+/**
+ * @copyright Copyright (c) 2022 Robin Appelman <robin@icewind.nl>
+ *
+ * @license GNU AGPL version 3 or any later version
+ *
+ * This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
+ * it under the terms of the GNU Affero General Public License as
+ * published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the
+ * License, or (at your option) any later version.
+ *
+ * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+ * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+ * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+ * GNU Affero General Public License for more details.
+ *
+ * You should have received a copy of the GNU Affero General Public License
+ * along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+ *
+ */
+
+namespace OCA\Files_External\Config;
+
+
+use OCP\Files\Mount\ISystemMountPoint;
+
+class SystemMountPoint extends ExternalMountPoint implements ISystemMountPoint {
+}
diff --git a/lib/composer/composer/autoload_classmap.php b/lib/composer/composer/autoload_classmap.php
index a634baccbd6d2..71f61388cbc0a 100644
--- a/lib/composer/composer/autoload_classmap.php
+++ b/lib/composer/composer/autoload_classmap.php
@@ -314,6 +314,7 @@
     'OCP\\Files\\Lock\\OwnerLockedException' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/Lock/OwnerLockedException.php',
     'OCP\\Files\\Mount\\IMountManager' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/Mount/IMountManager.php',
     'OCP\\Files\\Mount\\IMountPoint' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/Mount/IMountPoint.php',
+    'OCP\\Files\\Mount\\ISystemMountPoint' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/Mount/ISystemMountPoint.php',
     'OCP\\Files\\Node' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/Node.php',
     'OCP\\Files\\NotEnoughSpaceException' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/NotEnoughSpaceException.php',
     'OCP\\Files\\NotFoundException' => $baseDir . '/lib/public/Files/NotFoundException.php',
diff --git a/lib/composer/composer/autoload_static.php b/lib/composer/composer/autoload_static.php
index fa62893c11d4c..6cd40c79fb7e4 100644
--- a/lib/composer/composer/autoload_static.php
+++ b/lib/composer/composer/autoload_static.php
@@ -347,6 +347,7 @@ class ComposerStaticInit749170dad3f5e7f9ca158f5a9f04f6a2
         'OCP\\Files\\Lock\\OwnerLockedException' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/Lock/OwnerLockedException.php',
         'OCP\\Files\\Mount\\IMountManager' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/Mount/IMountManager.php',
         'OCP\\Files\\Mount\\IMountPoint' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/Mount/IMountPoint.php',
+        'OCP\\Files\\Mount\\ISystemMountPoint' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/Mount/ISystemMountPoint.php',
         'OCP\\Files\\Node' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/Node.php',
         'OCP\\Files\\NotEnoughSpaceException' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/NotEnoughSpaceException.php',
         'OCP\\Files\\NotFoundException' => __DIR__ . '/../../..' . '/lib/public/Files/NotFoundException.php',
diff --git a/lib/private/Encryption/Util.php b/lib/private/Encryption/Util.php
index 410ea19da8124..bf7bbce8ad71d 100644
--- a/lib/private/Encryption/Util.php
+++ b/lib/private/Encryption/Util.php
@@ -32,10 +32,8 @@
 use OC\Encryption\Exceptions\ModuleDoesNotExistsException;
 use OC\Files\Filesystem;
 use OC\Files\View;
-use OCA\Files_External\Lib\StorageConfig;
-use OCA\Files_External\Service\GlobalStoragesService;
-use OCP\App\IAppManager;
 use OCP\Encryption\IEncryptionModule;
+use OCP\Files\Mount\ISystemMountPoint;
 use OCP\IConfig;
 use OCP\IGroupManager;
 use OCP\IUser;
@@ -295,46 +293,9 @@ public function getUserWithAccessToMountPoint($users, $groups) {
 	 * @param string $uid
 	 * @return boolean
 	 */
-	public function isSystemWideMountPoint($path, $uid) {
-		// No DI here as this initialise the db too soon
-		if (\OCP\Server::get(IAppManager::class)->isEnabledForUser("files_external")) {
-			/** @var GlobalStoragesService $storageService */
-			$storageService = \OC::$server->get(GlobalStoragesService::class);
-			$storages = $storageService->getAllStorages();
-			foreach ($storages as $storage) {
-				if (strpos($path, '/files/' . ltrim($storage->getMountPoint(), '/')) === 0) {
-					if ($this->isMountPointApplicableToUser($storage, $uid)) {
-						return true;
-					}
-				}
-			}
-		}
-		return false;
-	}
-
-	/**
-	 * check if mount point is applicable to user
-	 *
-	 * @param StorageConfig $mount
-	 * @param string $uid
-	 * @return boolean
-	 */
-	private function isMountPointApplicableToUser(StorageConfig $mount, string $uid) {
-		if ($mount->getApplicableUsers() === [] && $mount->getApplicableGroups() === []) {
-			// applicable for everyone
-			return true;
-		}
-		// check if mount point is applicable for the user
-		if (array_search($uid, $mount->getApplicableUsers()) !== false) {
-			return true;
-		}
-		// check if mount point is applicable for group where the user is a member
-		foreach ($mount->getApplicableGroups() as $gid) {
-			if ($this->groupManager->isInGroup($uid, $gid)) {
-				return true;
-			}
-		}
-		return false;
+	public function isSystemWideMountPoint(string $path, string $uid) {
+		$mount = Filesystem::getMountManager()->find('/' . $uid . $path);
+		return $mount instanceof ISystemMountPoint;
 	}
 
 	/**
diff --git a/lib/public/Files/Mount/ISystemMountPoint.php b/lib/public/Files/Mount/ISystemMountPoint.php
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000000..a090a84947b47
--- /dev/null
+++ b/lib/public/Files/Mount/ISystemMountPoint.php
@@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
+<?php
+
+declare(strict_types=1);
+/**
+ * @copyright Copyright (c) 2022 Robin Appelman <robin@icewind.nl>
+ *
+ * @license GNU AGPL version 3 or any later version
+ *
+ * This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
+ * it under the terms of the GNU Affero General Public License as
+ * published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the
+ * License, or (at your option) any later version.
+ *
+ * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+ * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+ * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+ * GNU Affero General Public License for more details.
+ *
+ * You should have received a copy of the GNU Affero General Public License
+ * along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+ *
+ */
+
+namespace OCP\Files\Mount;
+
+/**
+ * Mark a mountpoint as containing system data, meaning that the data is not user specific
+ *
+ * Example use case is signaling to the encryption wrapper that system-wide keys should be used for a mountpoint
+ *
+ * @since 25.0.0
+ */
+interface ISystemMountPoint extends IMountPoint {
+}