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Reasoning for anti-war manifest #116

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medikoo opened this issue Mar 14, 2022 · 609 comments
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Reasoning for anti-war manifest #116

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@medikoo
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medikoo commented Mar 14, 2022

I'm opening this issue to serve as a single place to serve any (possibly constructive) discussions, towards the anti-Russian invasion on Ukraine manifest that's part of this package.


As I mentioned in 28de285 whole point of this manifest, is to urge all Russians that see it, to seek reliable sources of information of what's going on, as you won't get it from official media sources in Russia.

It's very important for you and the whole world that you realize what's really going on.

Note that I'm affected by the situation directly, and it's why I've decided to put this manifest in.

Reiterating what I've mentioned before:

So far, my country (Poland) has welcomed 1.5 million people from war-stricken Ukraine. They are ordinary, regular people, like you and me. Now frightened and without a place to live.

My friends regularly take a car, fill it with basic needs, go to the border, leave the products, and take Ukrainians who fleed their homes, offering them a free ride to one of the major cities. Some others take shifts to help manage situations in large public shelters. I personally let two Ukrainian women stay in one of my flats.

Your army is bombing civilian buildings, and hospitals, killing women and children. AFAIK, they see it the only way to crush the spirit of Ukrainians.

If you can check this thread: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1502748765169532928

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When I'll have time I'll post in this thread some news on war in Ukraine which you have no chance to see in official Russian media.

Note, that I won't answer any not constructive comments.

@asilenkov
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Nah, you are just closing all the issues and creating a new one every time you get a reply you were not expected. Is it panic?
Please stop it, that's not the way github works.

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@Duny
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Duny commented Mar 14, 2022

Репозиторием управляет нацист, боящийся правды.

@tarkhil
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tarkhil commented Mar 14, 2022

Репозиторием управляет нацист, боящийся правды.

No. Just a brainwashed and frightened boy.

@brotheroftux
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brotheroftux commented Mar 14, 2022

Funny you say that the point is "to help you get to reliable sources of information of what's going on, as you won't get it from official media sources in Russia", yet you provide a link for a Tor mirror of BBC, which is of course very well know for their unbiased way of doing journalism. You're targeting Russian developers by the way, majority of whom are aware of VPN's existence, and also are probably reading different Telegram channels making news on the whole debacle.
Also, what's your point in saying "stop Putin"? Do you understand that because of your recklessness GitHub/NPM could get blocked in Russia, since this can be treated as an incitement of a coup?
Just FYI — protesting in this country has already proved to solve nothing.

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tarkhil commented Mar 14, 2022

Funny you say that the point is "to help you get to reliable sources of information of what's going on, as you won't get it from official media sources in Russia", yet you provide a link for a Tor mirror of BBC, which is of course very well know for their unbiased way of doing journalism. You're targeting Russian developers by the way, majority of whom are aware of VPN existence, and also are probably reading different Telegram channels making news on the whole debacle. Also, what's your point in saying "stop Putin"? Do you understand that because of your recklessness GitHub/NPM could get blocked in Russia, since this can be treated as an incitement of a coup? Just FYI — protesting in this country has already proved to solve nothing.

Unbiased? OMG no!

Posting "LIVE FROM KHARKOV" and photo from Donetsk is not unbiased, it's outright deliberate lie.

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dmitry-ra commented Mar 14, 2022

@medikoo, your unprofessional actions has a single result - in developers communities going a wave about freeze and locks dependencies. And this is because of you.
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Translated message from a screenshot: "Colleagues, recommend that customers freeze dependency updates. They send this [link]".

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dmitry-ra commented Mar 14, 2022

@medikoo, "help you get to reliable sources of information of what's going on, as you won't get it from official media sources in Russia"

  1. your postinstall message directed to developers - to people, who works with tech and know about VPN, you realize that?
  2. who asked you for help?

@medikoo - this is a two constructive questions.

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Duny commented Mar 14, 2022

С такими загонами, как у автора, как бы не пришлось через пару месяцев добавлять в закладку новый часовой пояс "Russia/PPR", где PPR это Poland People's Republic.

Шучу, конечно.

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medikoo commented Mar 14, 2022

Do you understand that because of your recklessness GitHub/NPM could get blocked in Russia, since this can be treated as an incitement of a coup?

I think the coup is the only hope for you and for the neighboring countries, and from what I can see, sooner or later you'll have that happening.

Blocking GitHub and npm in Russia may also be good for you, as it may help you realize how enslaved you are by your government. I don't mind that.

your postinstall message directed to developers - to people, who works with tech and know about VPN, you realize that?

@dmitry-ra I realize that. Still, many developers never tried the Tor browser (e.g. I didn't so far, and still don't have a real need for that).

Another reason is, that fact that developers know the tools to get to a reliable source of information doesn't mean they do. I'm pretty sure many (and the number of negative responses here proves that), choose to feel "safe" under what Russian propaganda sells in official channels. In such a case, the message I'm showing is disturbing, definitely not one developer wants to see, and that is its purpose.

You need to wake up and search for the truth. Do you realize that your country is at risk to go bankrupt in the next days?:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/03/10/russia-belarus-mightily-close-default-world-bank-warns/

who asked you for help?

No-one. It's my sole idea. Near every day I'm seeing or hearing of fleeing Ukrainian women and children in my city.
See the message I've put in the top description. I host two Ukrainian women, that left Lviv two weeks ago, in one of my flats.
My daughter's class was just extended with 4 Ukrainian kids, which needed to flee constant bombing alarms and risk of dying in their home country. It's hard to sit still when such things happen

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tarkhil commented Mar 14, 2022

No-one. It's my sole idea. Near every day I'm seeing or hearing of fleeing Ukrainian women and children in my city. See the message I've put in the top description. I host two Ukrainian women, that left Lviv two weeks ago, in one of my flats. My daughter's class was just extended with 4 Ukrainian kids, which needed to flee constant bombing alarms and risk of dying in their home country. It's hard to sit still when such things happen

I only can wonder why it was easy to seat for 8 years? Maybe because your (so independent) mind did not get outcry from every speaker around you?

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Those kids are not the kids you are allowed to care about. Their deaths did not touch you.

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medikoo commented Mar 14, 2022

Some additional news you won't see in your TV:

On 9 March 2022, the Russian Air Force bombed Maternity Hospital No 3, a hospital complex functioning both as a children's hospital and maternity ward in Mariupol, Ukraine (more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol_hospital_airstrike)

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Women and unborn child from the last picture, unfortunately died.

For reliable reports from bombed cities check this photographer: https://www.instagram.com/evgenymaloletka/ (I'm pretty sure you can access it only via VPN)

Mariupol as you probably know, before invasion was largely Russian speaking, and ca 50% of citizens were Russian.


One of many tragedies in Kiev:

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Source: https://twitter.com/olya_rudenko/status/1502765675454111747


On Friday there was a circulating story of captured Russian pilot (Maksim Kryshtop), who carried out 3 bombing flights despite knowing that his target was civil infrastructure. Further, he urged Russian serviceman to cease hostilities. “It is my opinion that we have already lost this war".

You can watch his statement on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sH3NRh33cM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/11/do-not-invade-kyiv-have-already-lost-war-resignedly-honest-pleas/

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medikoo commented Mar 14, 2022

Those kids are not the kids you are allowed to care about. Their deaths did not touch you

@tarkhil I'm sorry for every life that's lost because of senseless aggression no matter who started it. I'm pretty sure you do not see it as justification for killing Ukraining children as done by Russian forces currently

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heyqbnk commented Mar 14, 2022

@medikoo it must be a joke. Dude. I could not even imagine there is a guy who could create such a good library, but at the same time being such idiot ruining everything he did for the great bunch of people. Cant believe it.

You think that you are kind of saint now opening new world for people who live in Russia. The posts you sent are already known for about week and I still cannot believe you are that bad. Everybody has the information sources, we know what is happening, we cannot do anything with this, stop spamming that shit in code.

Not realising that there is no truth in war. Nobody says the truth, but you still think that you use the reliable source of information and keep trying to "open eyes" for everybody. You just dont understand that you are doing deeply wrong thing when everybody says you the same - dont put politics into development, dumbass.

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I think GitHub should do with this repo the same that they did with faker.js

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Some additional news you won't see in your TV:

On 9 March 2022, the Russian Air Force bombed Maternity Hospital No 3, a hospital complex functioning both as a children's hospital and maternity ward in Mariupol, Ukraine (more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol_hospital_airstrike)

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It is fake. She's an Instagram beauty blogger. https://www.instagram.com/krevvetochka/

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heyqbnk commented Mar 14, 2022

@nomanner1988 dont break his ideal world. He think that imprisoned russian soldiers could say something like "Go Russia, capture the Ukraine, we will win!" instead of "We already lost this war" when they will be instantly dead right after conference in case they do it.

Critical thinking. Sources of truth. Yeah boy.

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the coup is the only hope for you and for the neighboring countries

@medikoo, and now hold on a second. Imagine that you in our place. You live you life, want to make nice and neat stuff, raise your children's, travel to beautiful places, etc. And someone tell you that you should start a bloody massacre in your country. Because "coup" it's a not an easy walk with colored banners and flags with music. This is a street fights with police and army. But in police and army serve yours brothers. So, in fact, you just tell - "Anti-war manifest: you need to shed yours blood for a peace". Thanks, dude. This is not a movie.

Some additional news you won't see

This is everywhere for a few last days.

Do you realize that your country is at risk to go bankrupt in the next days

This is sad, but this +-0 for a country with SWIFT turned off. My bank cards already just a plastic junk, thank you for a reminder.

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medikoo commented Mar 14, 2022

It is fake. She's an Instagram beauty blogger. https://www.instagram.com/krevvetochka/

@nomanner1988 It's not a fake, but it's true that the pictured lady is an Instagram blogger. She happened to be in advanced pregnancy recently (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cah7OCIKyOE/) and hosted at Mariupol hospital.

You can also see a video with this woman on site: https://twitter.com/DemagogPL/status/1501965129000394758?

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Please, show simular commits where you show your active position about how NATO respects sovereignty and territorial integrity of Yugoslavia? Libya? Afghanistan? Where can I look commit about USA's war in Siria?

It's very interesting to find them.

Also, why I can not find any photos and pictures about people killed by ukrainian nazi during 2014-2022???

It's a shame for all of you.

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ghost commented Mar 14, 2022

@medikoo Wake up, Neo! You were deceived!

For 8 years in Ukraine, the Nazis have been killing and torturing civilians. They do it because people want to speak Russian.

Under the leadership of the United States, deadly viruses are being developed in Ukraine, which can be much more dangerous than covid 19.

Your own country supplies weapons to Ukraine. And Ukrainian Prezident releases criminals from prisons and arms them. Тhey are the ones who kill women and children in Ukraine.

The Russian army will stop this madness!

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ipleten commented Mar 14, 2022

OMFG!. Russian propoganda bingo in github: "8 years", "nazi in Ukraine", " Ally of Angel in Donetsk", oh and of course everything else which wasn't shown in russian TV is a fake!

@medikoo Thank you for support, dude!

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asilenkov commented Mar 14, 2022

Guys, just a kind reminder, again. This is not a place for politics. If you want to do this, just delete account from github and go somewhere else. There are a lot of places to let you make this. All you are trying to achieve now, it's just a painful death for your library for nothing. There are a lot of alternatives around to not have some brainwashed crazy developer who is bloating software for political reasons. Just stop doing this until everyone just remove this piece of code out of everywhere. It's not even a library but extension and this become very annoying. Are you still sure you are good enough to survive? And your goal to spam github is not good at all. Also result you want to have is not achievable. You know about version lock don't you?

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iwdt commented Mar 14, 2022

It's just hype topic for him. It's very, very two-faced

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eolme commented Mar 14, 2022

@medikoo

Where is the fact check? Why is there no meat and blood in a hospital "full of people"? Oh, yeah, sorry blogger's mascara is leaking because of an explosion that just turned the building into a pile of rubble.

Where's the fact check? Why are chipped planks suddenly a grave? This is just a terrible joke.

Where is the fact check? Why do you take one side at face value and not the other? Well, I'll tell you, if it were a war, then the first thing they would do would be to destroy all the towers and any means of communication. But all of a sudden that didn't happen. You could argue that they demolished the TV tower, but just imagine how many of them there are in the country, why didn't they demolish them all? Oh, yes, uncomfortable questions.

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Я если честно, совсем не понимаю какое отношение к конфликту имеет автор - он же поляк.
Я например русский украинец, а поляки всегда воевали против России на протяжении всей истории.

To be honest, I don’t understand at all what the author has to do with the conflict - he is a Pole.
For example, I am a Russian Ukrainian, and the Poles have always fought against Russia throughout history.

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MrCry0 commented Mar 19, 2022

@apoterenko
I live in Ukraine for last 24 years (I was born in Russia), and during that time I saw 5 nazis: 4 of which was marginal 12-years old pubertate teenagers, and fifth was just some drunk guy in the train. But anyway you seems to know better how many nazis are here.
Meanwhile in Russia you had Maksim Tesak and these guys: youtu.be/LIuHocU6h7k (and it's just a first examples that came to my mind. I'm not a big fan of wasting my time on learning what's going on in Russia).
Meanwhile Russians think that they have a mandate to decide what government should their neighbours choose, what language they should speak and what domestic/foreign policy they should have. And when neighbours don't agree with that, Russians think that they have permissions to start a war (hi Georgia and Moldova). So who are the nazis here?
You may ask German people, Japanese, Australians, Finns or any other people in the world, what are the problems in Ukraine and what should Ukrainians do, and no one would even start to answer that question. Except for Russians. Every Russian seems to be an expert on Ukraine, and every Russian know better what do we have here and what should we do.

You see nothing, my dear friend. You have no acquaintances from the Donbass. Who are you anyway? You live in western Ukraine and eat hamburgers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nHUo2i-HhM

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muba00 commented Mar 19, 2022

Guys, I understand the Russia-Ukraine situation, but this is a huge damage to open source community, we lost the trust of people on open-source projects. There're lots of good projects developed by Russian & Ukrainian developers. But this... is unacceptable!

@muba00 I bet you'll change your attitude when you see Russian army bombing Baku and other cities in Azerbaijan.

I want to clarify my point, I understand the situation in Ukraine, my heart is with all people who suffer from this war..
When it comes to my country, we learned our lessons in a hard way... Google it: "Baku 20 January, 1990". Russia is in our neighborhood, it's a fact. Living in peace is a priority for us, we will sit with Russia & EU or US, we will talk to solve any problem we face. We understand US, EU and Russia and their interests, we are doing our best to keep the peace in our region. There's always a way to negotiate and make peace. We also realized when we contribute to our relationships other countries also do so. We see Ukraine and Russia as our neighbors and friends and seeing what's happening is painful. This war will damage both countries, please make peace. Please. Anyways, who is listening to us... It's really sad.. I can remove my comments if it's offensive to you.

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MrCry0 commented Mar 19, 2022

Я если честно, совсем не понимаю какое отношение к конфликту имеет автор - он же поляк. Я например русский украинец, а поляки всегда воевали против России на протяжении всей истории.

To be honest, I don’t understand at all what the author has to do with the conflict - he is a Pole. For example, I am a Russian Ukrainian, and the Poles have always fought against Russia throughout history.

Ніякий ти не українець. Не примазуйся. Українець - вольна людина. Ти - раб ху.ла. І будеш рабом будь-якої влади, яку за тебе поставлять царювати в Мордорі - нацистській Росії.

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MrCry0 commented Mar 19, 2022

Guys, I understand the Russia-Ukraine situation, but this is a huge damage to open source community, we lost the trust of people on open-source projects. There're lots of good projects developed by Russian & Ukrainian developers. But this... is unacceptable!

@muba00 I bet you'll change your attitude when you see Russian army bombing Baku and other cities in Azerbaijan.

I want to clarify my point, I understand the situation in Ukraine, my heart is with all people who suffer from this war.. When it comes to my country, we learned our lessons in a hard way... Google it: "Baku 20 January, 1990". Russia is in our neighborhood, it's a fact. Living in peace is a priority for us, we will sit with Russia & EU or US, we will talk to solve any problem we face. We understand US, EU and Russia and their interests, we are doing our best to keep the peace in our region. There's always a way to negotiate and make peace. We also realized when we contribute to our relationships other countries also do so. We see Ukraine and Russia as our neighbors and friends and seeing what's happening is painful. This war will damage both countries, please make peace. Please. Anyways, who is listening to us... It's really sad.. I can remove my comments if it's offensive to you.

Russia doesn't want to "talk". Russia just wants to occupy and annex the WHOLE Ukraine.

Golda Meir said: "our enemies want us to die, we want to live. there are not so many options to choose from."
I could repeat these words. Russia wants us to die or to get beslaved, we want to live and to be free. We have no choice, we'll kill each russian who will come in Ukraine for killing us.

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Я если честно, совсем не понимаю какое отношение к конфликту имеет автор - он же поляк. Я например русский украинец, а поляки всегда воевали против России на протяжении всей истории.
To be honest, I don’t understand at all what the author has to do with the conflict - he is a Pole. For example, I am a Russian Ukrainian, and the Poles have always fought against Russia throughout history.

Ніякий ти не українець. Не примазуйся. Українець - вольна людина. Ти - раб ху.ла. І будеш рабом будь-якої влади, яку за тебе поставлять царювати в Мордорі - нацистській Росії.

Вот такие вот и живут на западной Украине. Одна ненависть к русским. Кому еще нужны какие доказательства. Нож ему дай, быстро к горлу приставит

Даже после того что ты тут понаписал, у меня нет к тебе ненависти. Мы цивилизованные люди, в отличии от некоторых

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Guys, I understand the Russia-Ukraine situation, but this is a huge damage to open source community, we lost the trust of people on open-source projects. There're lots of good projects developed by Russian & Ukrainian developers. But this... is unacceptable!

@muba00 I bet you'll change your attitude when you see Russian army bombing Baku and other cities in Azerbaijan.

I want to clarify my point, I understand the situation in Ukraine, my heart is with all people who suffer from this war.. When it comes to my country, we learned our lessons in a hard way... Google it: "Baku 20 January, 1990". Russia is in our neighborhood, it's a fact. Living in peace is a priority for us, we will sit with Russia & EU or US, we will talk to solve any problem we face. We understand US, EU and Russia and their interests, we are doing our best to keep the peace in our region. There's always a way to negotiate and make peace. We also realized when we contribute to our relationships other countries also do so. We see Ukraine and Russia as our neighbors and friends and seeing what's happening is painful. This war will damage both countries, please make peace. Please. Anyways, who is listening to us... It's really sad.. I can remove my comments if it's offensive to you.

Russia doesn't want to "talk". Russia just wants to occupy and annex the WHOLE Ukraine.

Golda Meir said: "our enemies want us to die, we want to live. there are not so many options to choose from." I could repeat these words. Russia wants us to die or to get beslaved, we want to live and to be free. We have no choice, we'll kill each russian who will come in Ukraine for killing us.

Да ни кому ты нахрен не нужен, живи спокойно. России до тебя никакого дела нет, от слова совсем. Да, зашли войска к вам. НО временно зашли. Дела сделают и уйдут, чтобы вы слишком сильно нос не задирали

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MrCry0 commented Mar 19, 2022

Коллеги! То что сейчас происходит - это часть информационной войны против РФ. Многие западные авторы кода добавляют в свое ПО политические лозунги направленные против РФ, а также опасный malware, который активируется при использовании на территории России. Это спланировано и скоординировано.

Будьте внимательны и осторожны. Не отвечайте на провокации, не включайтесь в диалоги, не тратьте свое время и моральные силы.

Здесь вы найдете пополняемый список библиотек и ПО, в которое встроены политические призывы, направленные против РФ и другой вредоносный код.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H3xPB4PgWeFcHjZ7NOPtrcya_Ua4jUolWm-7z9-jSpQ/htmlview

Лучшее, что вы можете сделать при обнаружении подобных случаев:

  1. Копируйте библиотеки в свои репозитории, откатывайте вредоносный код. Оповещайте о чистых библиотеках других разработчиков.
  2. Посылайте запросы в гитхаб о блокировании вредоносных библиотек и их авторов (на одиночные запросы гитхаб не реагирует, но если их станет много, ситуация может измениться).
  3. Распространяйте информацию о недобросовестных авторах, нарушающих принципы опенсурс сообщества.

Йди, хлопчик, в свій Чебурнет, і там розказуй про опенсорс. Нема чого тобі робити на пендосском ресурсі :)

Where have you been while USA bombing Iraq and Afghanistan ?

@alexign Oh God, please... Anything but another portion of whataboutism explaining why Russian bombs are better than American bombs.

Special operation will continue and you cant prevent it whatever you speaking

Somewhen it stops after all your army be killed by ours :)

Я если честно, совсем не понимаю какое отношение к конфликту имеет автор - он же поляк. Я например русский украинец, а поляки всегда воевали против России на протяжении всей истории.
To be honest, I don’t understand at all what the author has to do with the conflict - he is a Pole. For example, I am a Russian Ukrainian, and the Poles have always fought against Russia throughout history.

Ніякий ти не українець. Не примазуйся. Українець - вольна людина. Ти - раб ху.ла. І будеш рабом будь-якої влади, яку за тебе поставлять царювати в Мордорі - нацистській Росії.

Вот такие вот и живут на западной Украине. Одна ненависть к русским. Кому еще нужны какие доказательства. Нож ему дай, быстро к горлу приставит

Даже после того что ты тут понаписал, у меня нет к тебе ненависти. Мы цивилизованные люди, в отличии от некоторых

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З чого нам любити вас, мразей і вбивць? Українці ніколи не нападали на Росію. Це Росія упорно, вже разів з 10 за останні 3 сторіччя нападала на Україну і всі попередні рази у вас виходило окупувати Україну і тримати нас десятиріччями і окупації. Цього разу у Росії не вийшло. Тому і біситесь. Бо Порошенко збудував таку армію, яка просто на атоми прямо зараз розкладає російсько-нацистських ублюдків, які в черговий раз прийшли на нашу землю нищити українців.

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А за что нам вас ненавидеть? Пойми, что мы в этом отличаемся от вас. Ваша ненависть льется через край, но мы другие совсем и нам нет нужды на вас ровняться, ибо мы выше вас.

А насчет забугорных ресурсов - это совсем не тебе решать, друг, куда мне ходить, а куда нет. У тебя роль на этой планете - минорная, быть обозревателем и терперь что происходит на мировой арене

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А Порох, это тот который с позором был выгнан? Если бы был достойный президент - за него голосовали бы люди

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Да, зашли войска к вам... Дела сделают и уйдут, чтобы вы слишком сильно нос не задирали

Ты серьезно не понимаешь что твои слова и есть нацизм?

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А Порох, это тот который с позором был выгнан? Если бы был достойный президент - за него голосовали бы люди

Ну вы то точно знаете как должны проходить выборы.

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Да, зашли войска к вам... Дела сделают и уйдут, чтобы вы слишком сильно нос не задирали

Ты серьезно не понимаешь что твои слова и есть нацизм?

А что я должен написать? Что этого не происходит? Вам уже написали 100 раз, что в случае вступления Украины в НАТО - будет война в Крыму, разнесут весь полуостров. Естественно поэтому все что происходит - идет против этого сценария. Называйте это любыми терминами, но моя родня в Крыму и я ссал на желание Украины вернуть Крым силой, и не надо мне рассказывать что там в Крыму происходит, у меня там родни тьма

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То есть получается это украинцы тебя заставили быть нацистом???

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"Называйте это любыми терминами, но моя родня в Сибири и я ссал на желание России держать Сибирь силой, и не надо мне рассказывать что там в Сибири происходит, у меня там родни тьма"

А мне можно такие заявления делать?

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То есть получается это украинцы тебя заставили быть нацистом???

Этот относится к завоеванию и геноциду. Наша же позиция - именно защита близких по крови и про-русских в Крыму и на восточной украине. Если для этого потребуется перелопатить близлежащие земли - значит таково судьба этого народа.
Если бы Крымчан и Донбасс не обижали - ничего бы не было. Но Украина рещила что существует только Западная часть населения - остальное меньшинство - быдло, но у России другое мнение

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MrCry0 commented Mar 19, 2022

То есть получается это украинцы тебя заставили быть нацистом???

Этот относится к завоеванию и геноциду. Наша же позиция - именно защита близких по крови и про-русских в Крыму и на восточной украине. Если для этого потребуется перелопатить близлежащие земли - значит таково судьба этого народа. Если бы Крымчан и Донбасс не обижали - ничего бы не было. Но Украина рещила что существует только Западная часть населения - остальное меньшинство - быдло, но у России другое мнение

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"Называйте это любыми терминами, но моя родня в Сибири и я ссал на желание России держать Сибирь силой, и не надо мне рассказывать что там в Сибири происходит, у меня там родни тьма"

А мне можно такие заявления делать?

Я делаю такие заявления, ибо Крым САМ принял решение войсти в состав России, его никто не заставлял. И я не заставлял свою родню присоединяться к России - это ИХ выбор.

Вас всех просто нереально бесит, что такой лакомый кусок курортов убежал от вас

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И скажу вам еще вот что - Крымчане НЕ считают себя НИ украинцами, НИ русскими , это отдельная нация - хочется вам или нет - вам придется принять это

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По этому на референдуме они проголосовали не за независимость, а за вступление в состав РФ...

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Можешь ещё крымским татарам эту историю рассказать про отдельный народ. В составе РФ.

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@apoterenko По этому на референдуме они проголосовали не за независимость, а за вступление в состав РФ...

У них нет инфраструктуры, поэтому они решили что с Россией они поднимутся быстрее, чем сами по себе и к тому же, они одни не смогли бы защитить себя от Украины. Россия вбухала кучу бабла в них. Да цены там поднялись и ЗП невысокие, но как бы за все нужно платить. Многие живут бедно, но в составе Украины было не особо лучше.

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@apoterenko Можешь ещё крымским татарам эту историю рассказать про отдельный народ. В составе РФ.

Им платят огромные бабки, чтобы они были довольны, как и Чечне. Но что им дала Украина? В Бахчесарае народ на кассах до сих пор счетами пользуется и не знает что такое калькулятор - вот вам и Украина

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icw82 commented Mar 19, 2022

@medikoo Do you like all this flame? Stop it!

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medikoo commented Mar 19, 2022

Indeed this discussion is going nowhere, I'm locking it for now.


To all Russian developers that are upset by the manifest:

The invasion of Ukraine (a democratic European country) has shown to the world that we must no longer ignore the fact that you're silently accepting what your government is doing.

The situation that's now happening in Russia resembles one in Germany in the 30s, when all the nation, through an internal propaganda machine, was turned hostile against the outer world. We've learned where it leads.

We must act, and we believe that you in Russia must act to stop this. The point of this manifest is to remind you every day about that until it's solved.

If anyone blocks GitHub or npm in Russia because of the manifest, it'll be your government. It is your government that's the oppressor here, not us.

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