Some release dates differ from Bram's presentation and Wikipedia

[k-takata]

I compared the release dates with Bram's presentation[1] and Wikipedia[2].
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayc_qpB-93o (1:37)
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_(text_editor)#History

There are some differences between them: ("=": Same as vim_faq)

Version	vim_faq	video[1]	Wikipedia[2]
8.1	17th May, 2018		May 18
8.0	12th September, 2016	=	=
7.4	10th August, 2013		=
7.3	15th August, 2010		=
7.2	9th August, 2008		=
7.1	12th May, 2007		=
7.0	8th May, 2006	=	May 7
6.4	15th October, 2005		=
6.3	8th June 2004		June 7
6.2	1st June 2003		=
6.1	24th March 2002		=
6.0	27th September, 2001	=	September 26
5.8	31st May, 2001		=
5.7	24th June, 2000		=
5.6	16th January, 2000		=
5.5	21st September, 1999		September 19
5.4	26th July, 1999		July 25
5.3	31st August, 1998		=
5.2	24th August, 1998		April 27
5.1	7th April, 1998		April 6
5.0	19th February, 1998	February 28	=
4.6	13th March, 1997
4.5	17th October, 1996
4.2	5th July, 1996
4.0	21st May, 1996	May 29	May 29
3.0	16th August, 1994	August 12	August 12
2.0	21st December, 1993	=	December 14
1.27	23rd April, 1993	=
1.17	21st April, 1992
1.14	2nd November, 1991	=

I haven't checked the repository, so I don't know which is correct.

[chrisbra]

Hi Ken, thanks for checking. I also investigated a bit using the tags from the repositories (current, vim-ancient)

Here is the date the code was tagged. This is from those two mentioned repositories:

0 118392 chrisbra@debian ~/code/vim-src (git)-[master]- % git log --no-walk=unsorted --simplify-by-decoration --date=short --pretty="format:%ad %d" v8.1.0000 v8.0.0000 v7.4 v7.3 v7.2 v7.1 v7.0 && GIT_DIR=../vim-ancient/.git  git log --no-walk=unsorted --simplify-by-decoration --date=short --pretty="format:%ad %d" vim-6-4 vim-6-3 vim-6-2 vim-6-1 vim-6-0 vim-5-8-000 vim-5-7 vim-5-6
2018-05-17  (tag: v8.1.0000)
2016-09-12  (tag: v8.0.0000)
2013-08-10  (tag: v7.4)
2010-08-15  (tag: v7.3)
2008-08-09  (tag: v7.2.000, tag: v7.2)
2007-05-12  (tag: v7.1)
2006-05-07  (tag: v7.0)
2005-10-15  (tag: vim-6-4)
2004-06-07  (tag: vim-6-3)
2003-06-02  (tag: vim-6-2)
2002-03-25  (tag: vim-6-1)
2001-09-26  (tag: vim-6-0)
2001-06-05  (tag: vim-5-8-000)
2000-06-24  (tag: vim-5-7)
2000-01-17  (tag: vim-5-6)

Now I also had a look at the vim_announce mailinglist, which seems to
confirm to the given dates in the FAQ. I did not find release dates older
than 4.6.

So putting it all together, let me update your table:

Version	vim_faq	video	Wikipedia	Tags current, Tags old	Announcements
8.1	17th May, 2018		May 18	=	=
8.0	12th September, 2016	=	=	=	=
7.4	10th August, 2013		=	=	=
7.3	15th August, 2010		=	=	=
7.2	9th August, 2008		=	=	=
7.1	12th May, 2007		=	=	=
7.0	8th May, 2006	=	May 7	May 7	=
6.4	15th October, 2005		=	=	=
6.3	8th June 2004		June 7	=	=
6.2	1st June 2003		=	June 2	=
6.1	24th March 2002		=	March 25	=
6.0	27th September, 2001	=	Sep 26	=	=
5.8	31st May, 2001		=	June 5	=
5.7	24th June, 2000		=	=	=
5.6	16th January, 2000		=	Jan 17	=
5.5	21st September, 1999		Sep 19		=
5.4	26th July, 1999		July 25		=
5.3	31st August, 1998		=		=
5.2	24th August, 1998		Apr 27 [6]		=
5.1	7th April, 1998		Apr 06		=
5.0	19th February, 1998	February 28	=		=
4.6	13th March, 1997				=
4.5	17th October, 1996
4.2	5th July, 1996
4.0	21st May, 1996	May 29	May 29
3.0	16th August, 1994	Aug 12	Aug 12
2.0	21st December, 1993	=	December 14
1.27	23rd April, 1993	=
1.17	21st April, 1992
1.14	2nd November, 1991	=

[6]: I think it is an error in the wikipedia page and very unlikely, that Vim 5.2 was released just 20 days after 5.1

I guess, for some versions the code has just been tagged a bit later, than the actual announcements.
So let's keep the given dates until release 4.6. (since they match with the release announcements). I will adjust the dates for Version 4.0 and 3.0 to they match the ones given in wikipedia and the video.

[k-takata]

Ah, checking the official announcements is a good way.

BTW, vim-ancient has the history only between v5.5 and v6.4, and we don't have older history than that. Only we have tarballs in the official FTP site.
I created an repository from the tarballs: https://github.com/k-takata/vim-history
It has the history from v1.14 to v5.5. (The commit dates are faked based on the dates from src/version.c or src/version.h.)
Vim-ancient and vim-history might be useful when checking the old history of Vim. So, how about creating the clone of them in https://github.com/vim? (Cc: @brammool)
(The names might be confusing. Are there any better names?)

[chrisbra]

I created the vim-ancient repository by git importing the old CVS repository (which I think is still available at the vim.sf.net webpage.) It only had the version back until tag 5.4.something.

I agree joining with your vim-history repository would be nice and sometimes looking up some things back in the old code was a nice excercise :) So yeah, something below the official repository github.com/vim/ would be really cool.

[brammool]

Christian, Ken -

I created the vim-ancient repository by git importing the old CVS repository (which I think is still available at the vim.sf.net webpage.) It only had the version back until tag 5.4.something. I agree joining with your vim-history repository would be nice and sometimes looking up some things back in the old code was a nice excercise :) So yeah, something below the official repository github.com/vim/ would be really cool.

Feel free to create this. I don't have a big interest or preference on how to do this. It could be useful to find out some changes in the past. I believe the release dates are used are when the announcement went out. Sometimes the code was already there for a few days. - Bram

…

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[k-takata]

I transferred my vim-history repository to https://github.com/vim/vim-history (with archived status). It seems that I don't have write access to the repository, but it should be okay.

[k-takata]

I also created a mirror of vim-ancient to https://github.com/vim/vim-ancient .

[chrisbra]

If you unarchive vim-history, I would create a PR which contains the merged history of our both repositories:

https://github.com/chrisbra/vim-history/

[k-takata]

Oh, I didn't think that we can merge the two repositories. Then we can remove https://github.com/vim/vim-ancient .
Unfortunately I cannot unarchive vim-history.

@brammool Could you add the admin rights of https://github.com/vim/vim-history and https://github.com/vim/vim-ancient to me and @chrisbra ?

[brammool]

Oh, I didn't think that we can merge the two repositories. Then we can remove https://github.com/vim/vim-ancient . Unfortunately I cannot unarchive vim-history. @brammool Could you add the admin rights of https://github.com/vim/vim-history and https://github.com/vim/vim-ancient to me and @chrisbra ?

Looks like that doesn't worked as long as it's archived. I unarchived it.

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[k-takata]

@brammool Thank you!

@chrisbra Is it better to push your commits directly to https://github.com/vim/vim-history by using git push -f? Are the tags also updated?
Could you also update README.md properly?

[chrisbra]

@k-takata
I think tags should still be correct. README.md has also been updated. I tried pushing to a new branch, but don't have permissions to do so.

Have a look at https://github.com/chrisbra/vim-history/

@brammool can you please give us commit rights? I'll force push then (for now to a different branch) so that we can make sure everything is correct.

thanks!

[k-takata]

@chrisbra
I didn't know that a parent commit can be replaced by git replace --graft.

chrisbra/vim-history@1ccf3fa#diff-04c6e90faac2675aa89e2176d2eec7d8R6
I think it's better to add two spaces or <br/> at the end of this line to break the line.

chrisbra/vim-history@1ccf3fa#diff-04c6e90faac2675aa89e2176d2eec7d8R9
Same for this line.