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Chris Peterson, Mozilla
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Mike Taylor, Google
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Mike will ask John Wilander from WebKit team if he would like to join these meetings.
- Mike will try to actually do this next week.
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UA Reduction Phase 5 Rollout
- YouTube asked for some modifications to the rollout schedule. We’ll consider the request, but unlikely to delay things unless sites break.
- Update: we rolled out to 5% stable earlier than we had initially announced. But we're keeping the original schedule to get to 100%.
- Current version is M108.
- Mike: yep, see proposed Finch rollout here.
- After phase 5 reaches 100%, Mike will update UA compat spec to document frozen UA tokens.
- Phase 6 rollout for Android M110 (February)
- including device model “K”
- Still planning on original rollout dates, hope to publish and intent to ship in early January.
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Webcompat bugs: sites are detecting Firefox “rv:110” as IE11 (“rv:11”).
- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1805967
- Sites affected so far: bestbuy.com, bilibili.com, cvs.com
- Affected:
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:110.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/110.0"
- Unaffected:
'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/110.0.0.0 Safari/537.36'
- Sites think Firefox’s “rv:11” means IE11.
- IE11 UAs
- Internet Explorer 10 =
“Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; Trident/6.0)”
- Internet Explorer 11 =
“Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko”
- Internet Explorer 10 =
- Chris will follow up with the Firefox webcompat team, asking if we need a general solution instead of adding interventions for individual sites.
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UA-CH
- [chris] I’m still prototyping the navigator.userAgentData API for Firefox in my spare time. Slow progress and no ETA.
- Mike to take an AI to file a bug / investigate Google Business sites (like https://steakhouse-319.business.site/) using the deprecated
FullVersion
. - Mike is in discussion with some internal teams to migrate from deprecated FullVersion to Full-Version-List.
- Chrome’s UA-CH implementation exposes Linux kernel version
- https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1381304
- Mike will fix to return an empty string (per the spec): https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4005183
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Publish minutes to https://github.com/whatwg/compat/tree/main/uastring/minutes?
- Latest minutes are 2022-06-24.
- Mike made some progress - to finish locally and push.