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[Minutes] UA String Reduction - 2022-12-16

Attendees:

  • Chris Peterson, Mozilla

  • Mike Taylor, Google

  • Mike will ask John Wilander from WebKit team if he would like to join these meetings.

    • Mike will try to actually do this next week.
  • UA Reduction Phase 5 Rollout

    • YouTube asked for some modifications to the rollout schedule. We’ll consider the request, but unlikely to delay things unless sites break.
    • Update: we rolled out to 5% stable earlier than we had initially announced. But we're keeping the original schedule to get to 100%.
    • Current version is M108.
    • Mike: yep, see proposed Finch rollout here.
    • After phase 5 reaches 100%, Mike will update UA compat spec to document frozen UA tokens.
    • Phase 6 rollout for Android M110 (February)
      • including device model “K”
      • Still planning on original rollout dates, hope to publish and intent to ship in early January.
  • Webcompat bugs: sites are detecting Firefox “rv:110” as IE11 (“rv:11”).

    • https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1805967
    • Sites affected so far: bestbuy.com, bilibili.com, cvs.com
    • Affected:
      • "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:110.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/110.0"
    • Unaffected:
      • 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/110.0.0.0 Safari/537.36'
    • Sites think Firefox’s “rv:11” means IE11.
    • IE11 UAs
      • Internet Explorer 10 = “Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.2; Trident/6.0)”
      • Internet Explorer 11 = “Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko”
    • Chris will follow up with the Firefox webcompat team, asking if we need a general solution instead of adding interventions for individual sites.
  • UA-CH

  • Publish minutes to https://github.com/whatwg/compat/tree/main/uastring/minutes?

    • Latest minutes are 2022-06-24.
    • Mike made some progress - to finish locally and push.