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Bunker silo mode - reduce the lift of the shield - general improvement for FS25 #2221

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WildcardCooper opened this issue Dec 30, 2022 · 16 comments
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enhancement New feature or request FS25 Will check for fs25 low priority more a nice to have then rly needed

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Steps to reproduce

  1. Unload chaff at the start of the bunker silo.
  2. Let CP worker with leveler try to level the chaff.
  3. Observe the first interaction of leveler with chaff - CP worker is slighty elevating the leveler creating sort of bump.

Actual behavior
What i wrote above + screens to visualise the problem.
After creating the first bump, iteraction with rest of chaff further in silo is alright. When chaff fills up the leveler, CP worker repeatedly rise and lower the leveler and does leveling properly.
Expected behavior
Not creating the first bump, since he can get stuck on it.
Screenshots
FS22_courseplay_bunker_leveling_1
FS22_courseplay_bunker_leveling_2
FS22_courseplay_bunker_leveling_3

Courseplay version
v7.1.2.5

Player on the server
3

Dedicated server or local hosted server
Dedicated server.

Map
Benz Nordwestmecklenburg v1

Vehicles/ implements involved
Xerion 5000 with MES 500 (happening also with MSS 3700) and Stego 485 Pro

Mod
Yes, Claas Xerion Tour Edition. (but it's happening also with Fendt 1000 Vario)

Relevant script mods
Autodrive on.

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Tensuko commented Dec 30, 2022

The lift is intended and the chaff needs to be filled inside the bunker, at the start.
Everything infront of it can't be worked on as we have some kind initialisation of the shield.
If we would move this further out, we will have space problems with tighter areas, that is not our intention ofc.

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silo_FS

It doesn't matter where the chaff is, since the bump is created after first interaction with the chaff. There is screen of worker creating the bump in the middle of silo.

silo_FS22_2

And this is the aftermath of the first bump, tractor is long and while coming from the bump down, it pushes the leveler down causing more bumps, sometimes it makes the tractor stuck.

It is happening always after the 1st interaction with the chaff, not in front or at the start of bunker silo.

@Tensuko Tensuko added the enhancement New feature or request label Dec 30, 2022
@Tensuko Tensuko changed the title Bunker silo mode - leveling problem [BUG_MP] Bunker silo mode - reduce the lift of the shield to prevent bumps? Dec 30, 2022
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Tensuko commented Dec 30, 2022

The problem is if the don't lift the shield sometimes, it gets stuck at the end and get other strange behaviour.
So the pushing have to go on and on untill the bumps are gone and they should be gone after a while.
We check if we can improove it further.

@Tensuko Tensuko added low priority more a nice to have then rly needed and removed waiting for user User answer needed labels Dec 30, 2022
@Tensuko Tensuko removed the low priority more a nice to have then rly needed label Jan 22, 2023
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Hi, is this 'solution' already rolled out? Did I mis an update? I still have the (same) issue as descriped above.

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Tensuko commented Feb 12, 2023

As you see no reference, nothing is done yet and you would see a new release with changelog.

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Spyrootjuh commented Feb 12, 2023

Sorry, was a bit confusing for me with the label 'enhancement'. When I hoof over it it say 'new feature'. My English is not the best :-)
But, is the lifting of the shield needed? If it wont move the silage, it (the tractor) will move a bit to the left or right (depandable how wide the tractor vs silo is), Once it is a bit to left/right it is able to move the silage to the back.
Currently, due the bumps it get 'stuck'. It is trying to move backward but the wheels are not touching the floor so it is not moving, but because the wheel are not 'blocking', it won't stop and return to the beginning of the silo.

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FS22Silo
Another option might be, if we use the tractor, we have 2 options for shifting the shield.
1 is the angle, 2 is lower/upper the shield. In both ways, if 1 is completly up and the 2nd is completly down, you can level the silage in the silo without any problems. Best option is to raise the shield up max and put the angle of the shield down maximum.

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Tensuko commented Feb 12, 2023

Check 7.2.0.1 and changelog.

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Spyrootjuh commented Feb 12, 2023

FS22Silo2
Testing it now, first 2 trailers emptied and leveled without issues. No bumping, thanks a lot. Will leave Autodrive and Courseplay run for some time and empty the whole field, see if it will get stuck. Will keep you informed.
Using the biggest original silo from the game, is it normal the silage go so far out of the silo?

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Somehow the 2nd tractor is not waiting untill the first left the silo.

UPDATE!!!
The 2nd tractor is waiting when the 1st tractor is driving backwards into the silo, untill the 1st start unloading, then the 2nd tractor start moving again.

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Tensuko commented Feb 12, 2023

Drive trough silos are not made to be use with a shield.
As you can imagine, no more drive trough...
I suggest you the concrete bunker set and use the U one if you use a shield.
https://www.farming-simulator.com/mod.php?lang=de&country=de&mod_id=250819&title=fs2022

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Spyrootjuh commented Feb 12, 2023

It is not a drive through, they go backward into the silo. Will test/use U silo the next test.

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Spyrootjuh commented Feb 12, 2023

FS22Silo5
Okay, this is probably the issue you mentioned before. The wheels are not touching the ground due the lowered shield. Now it is stuck. But we had the same issue before with the bumping, it also came stuck...
Just thinking... Can a timer be added? That whatever the tractor is doing, after 30 seconds it will go back to starting point or something in this trend?

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FS22Silo6
I don't know if there is a connection, but the silo work runs fine, every time after a (short) period the shield goes up and drives forward again (3x in the same strip, then it takes the next strip (right, middle ,left)). Until the 1st tractor arrives and is waiting for the 1st trigger point. When a tractor is on hold (waiting until all vehicles are out of the silo) it suddenly seems to get stuck.

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Ok, I'm pretty sure this is the problem. Whenever there is no tractor near the silo to unload, the tractor's shield will raise in the silo if it 'gets stuck'. When the shield goes up, the tractor goes back to the start and continues. But every time a tractor is standing next to the silo, waiting to unload, the shield no longer rises if the tractor 'gets stuck' in the silo.

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I will now share a few videos. The 1st video is where the leveling goes well, the shield goes up when the tractor is stuck.

WhatsApp.Video.2023-02-12.at.21.19.36.mp4

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In the 2nd movie you can see that it gets stuck, the shield doesn't go up anymore. At the end you see the tractor that wants to unload next to the silo. The whole video takes 5 minutes and I can't share it here. I'll share it with you if you'd like to see it in its entirety.

WhatsApp.Video.2023-02-12.at.21.25.13.mp4

@Tensuko Tensuko added the low priority more a nice to have then rly needed label Mar 19, 2023
@Tensuko Tensuko added the under investigation trying to figure out whats happening label May 7, 2024
@Tensuko Tensuko changed the title Bunker silo mode - reduce the lift of the shield to prevent bumps? Bunker silo mode - reduce the lift of the shield - general improvement for FS25 Jun 27, 2024
@Tensuko Tensuko removed the under investigation trying to figure out whats happening label Jun 27, 2024
@Tensuko Tensuko added the FS25 Will check for fs25 label Sep 20, 2024
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