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# 2019-08-07 NumPy Development Meeting
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- Time: 11am Pacific Time
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- Join via Zoom at https://berkeley.zoom.us/j/762261535
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- [Trello workboard](https://trello.com/b/Azg4fYZH/numpy-at-bids)
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- [Previous meetings](https://github.com/BIDS-numpy/docs/tree/master/status_meetings)
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**Present:** Inessa, Tyler, Peter Entschev, ZJ Poh, Sebastian, Ralf, Chuck, Kriti, Matthew Brett
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## Follow-up from last meeting / discussions
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- Proposal for dropping older Python versions [NEP 29](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/14086/files)
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- We need some data (Python 3.5 downloads). Preliminary analysis at [this repo](https://github.com/matthew-brett/pypi-by-distro). See results at end of [this notebook](https://github.com/matthew-brett/pypi-by-distro/blob/master/analyze_pypi_downloads.ipynb).
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- Maybe probably target things like Ubuntu LTS?
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- The people involved in the discussion are not those affected by it. (we may force users to Anaconda).
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- NEP could have options: Projects could decide how fast they move.
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- Community building
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- A survey is planned.
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- Season of Docs participants announced
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- Website redesign PEP merged.
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- Added people to website Team on GitHub
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# Topics
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- Community Survey:
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- Engages the community.
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- What do we want to find out?
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- Database of Members (PyData has 100k members?)
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- Identifier Community: Background (Science, Teaching, Industry), potential contributor
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- Survey should be short and easy to process
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- Survey can be a two way communication, by introducing things
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- Offer to send a survey report (hopefully)
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- Inessa is going to put up a google doc to invite people to ask questions of what we want from the survey.
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- Proposal for dropping older Python versions [NEP 29]
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- Get back to the NEP thread, suggest that some projects will choose to support 3 python versions (and numpy would be one of those)
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- GSoD will host the project ["Making "The Basics" a Little More Basic: Improving the Introductory NumPy Sections"](https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/participants/project-numpy)
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- There will be a kick-off call, writing starts September.
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- Duckarray [NEP](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/blob/master/doc/neps/nep-0030-duck-array-protocol.rst)
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- Expand the Motivation (potential users) a bit.
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- Section in [HOWTO_RELEASE](https://numpy.org/devdocs/dev/releasing.html#make-the-release) about sourceforge: is it relevant?
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- Chuck will have a look at Matti's PR
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- We are not using Sourceforge any more. Last Numpy upload there was [3 years ago](https://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/), for [Scipy, it was about 4 years ago](https://sourceforge.net/projects/scipy/).
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- Vendor towncrier?
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- Yes
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- Put things in to have working release.
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- Releases upcoming 1.16.5 (1.17.1 still waiting for feedback):
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- Sebastian should help with it to get to know the release progress. (1.17.1)
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## Additional Details
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- Matti
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- Work on activating numpy/doc -> numpy.org/doc as the documentation archive instead of scipy.org/doc
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- Sebastian
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- Draft starts: https://hackmd.io/kxuh15QGSjueEKft5SaMug, https://hackmd.io/y7ghitUtRQaMyaHFGe-ueQ
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- Towncrier
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