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# 2019-09-11 NumPy Development Meeting
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- Time: 11am Pacific Time
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- Join via Zoom at https://berkeley.zoom.us/j/762261535
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- [Trello workboard](https://trello.com/b/Azg4fYZH/numpy-at-bids)
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- [Previous meetings](https://github.com/BIDS-numpy/docs/tree/master/status_meetings)
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**Present:** ZJ, Tyler, Warren, Chuck, Hameer, Ralf, Matti, Sebastian, Inessa, Stéfan
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## Follow-up from last meeting / discussions
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- Ralf opened [PR 14454](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/14454) to document the public API. Do we need to discuss it?
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- Polynomial namespace, multiple ways of calling the poly functions; Eric Wieser has a [suggestion](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/13601#issuecomment-525591808) on how to fix
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- TODO Follow up on surveying new public API surface in `np.random` (Matti will try and clean that up)
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# Topics
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- NEP repo updates github.com/numpy/neps do not reflect to https://numpy.org/neps
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- Github deploy is not triggered (reliably?) for some reason
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- Sebastian asked support for help
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- In discussing build warnings, @rgommers raised the following ideas:
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- hide the _configtest output by default. we regularly get issues about those where people see lots of errors and for example hit Ctrl-C
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- add a `--debug-config` option to show this output?
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- introduce a CI run that's clean with the latest GCC. we have a `-Werror` build somewhere, but only with old GCC (existing build matrix entry could be updated)
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- introduce a CI run that's clean on macOS with Clang (lots of warnings right now)
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- clang on linux too?
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- Hypothesis in testing. The mailing list discussion was very short. [PR 14440](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/14440) is an example for discussion
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- Ask for some more examples, especially around bytestrings/unicode, pickling. Don't pin the version.
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- [NEP 32](https://numpy.org/neps/nep-0032-remove-financial-functions.html): So far, there have been only a few responses to the announcements on the numpy-discussion and pydata mailing lists.
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- Well before the release of 1.18 we will have a numpy-financial package on PyPI and deprecation stubs in numpy.
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- NEP 31
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- Add `determine_backend`:
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- Few choices: `__ua_domain__` or making `__ua_convert__` mandatory.
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- Any additional comments?
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- The general feeling is that we need to get the correct people on a high-bandwidth discussion. Perhaps at the Nov 22-23 meeting?
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- Social media channels - reserving for now?
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- Maybe trademark the NumPy name?
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- Website redesign update
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- Ralf, Inessa showed off the new site.
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- Logo refresh is going on [numpy.org PR 36](https://github.com/numpy/numpy.org/issues/37)
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## Additional Details
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- Matti
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- Participated in EuroSciPy. It was nice to meet up with folks. A number of people sprinted, among them we got a PR to use hypothesis in our testing.
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- Pushed some small changes to Cython, trying to help them get 3.0 out. Also a small fix for the `@property` decorator in numpy.pxd in SciPy.
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- Adding a new dtype via (ab)use of the object dtype for geodata in pandas
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- Sebastian
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- [Extensible Datatypes for NumPy](https://hackmd.io/kxuh15QGSjueEKft5SaMug) Matti had some feedback/clarifications.
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- Started (prototyping): https://github.com/seberg/numpy/pull/6
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- Start on `PyArray_InitDTypeMetaFromSpec(...)`
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- Not quite there yet for AbstractDType for value based casting, but next step.
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- Warren
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- Repo for my experiments with custom dtypes using the current API is https://github.com/WarrenWeckesser/numtypes
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- Spent time on this issue in numpy.random:
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- Bug report: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/14457
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- Initial fix by ahaldane: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/14458
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- My follow-up PR: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/14465
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Please remember to archive this file and commit it to github.com:bids-numpy/docs
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